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Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« on: July 01, 2010, 09:02:54 PM »
Hi Friends,
The thread "Form follows function" got me thinking about who the customers were that bought guns from the makers in Pennsylvania and northern Virginia during the late 18th century and early 19th.  Certainly, there were some sold to frontier hunters, explorers, traders etc, but was that really a major market for most of the makers?  There were government and state militia contracts, which I suspect were pretty lucrative (hence Dickert's and others formation of the Lancaster cartel).  I suspect building simple guns for local people and fancier sporting pieces for prosperous businessmen were the key markets outside of government military contracts.  I am curious about those clients and would appreciate hearing from some of the gun trade historians on our board.  I am also curious about how the status of foreign trade with England and France affected local gunmakers.  During periods of embargo, local smiths may have flourished only to go out of business when cheap imports became available again.   

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PS This thread was also prompted by a dream I had years ago, in which Jacob Dickert was on TV (looking a lot like Charleton Heston in "The Ten Commandments") selling rifles.  It was like an old Earl Scheib paint your car commercial - "I can build you a rifle for $19.95"   
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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 10:09:36 PM »
Dave. maybe it depends on what the customer wanted? As far as foreign competition goes, I don't think there was very much competition with local or regional makers from Europe at all when it comes to rifled guns. Only the wealthy wanted European rifled guns, at least they seem to be very rare today. Shotguns were another story, even American "made" shotguns seem to have mostly Belgian and occasionally English barrels. As a matter of fact, the majority of muzzleloading shotguns and fowlers in this country, both single and especially double barreled guns, seem to be entirely European made.
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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 10:17:12 PM »
First and foremost in driving demand was probably the huge increase in population. With big families, and the militia law in many areas still requiring that citizens provide their own guns at regular musters, there was a good market for rifles. Pass the older, out of fashion, rifle down to little Johnny and buy Daddy the nicest status symbol he can afford.

Maybe they stand out in the documents because they are unusual, but Wallace Gusler has also discovered some interesting references to really nice rifles being made in VA for men, and their families, moving to Kentucky. These were not for hunters or explorers but for men who were caught up in the desire to get their share of the 1790-1820 version of the American dream. This is also the period when land bounties for service in the Revolution were being claimed in Kentucky, Ohio, etc.

I think there was also a good bit of national pride in the longrifle culture after the Rev War. This is evidenced somewhat by 19th-century militia units wearing hunting shirts and carrying what they still called "scalping knives."

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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 10:42:38 PM »
Pass the older, out of fashion, rifle down to little Johnny and buy Daddy the nicest status symbol he can afford.


I've always considered the longrifle in late 18th/early 19th cent. to be on a somewhat parallel to a car/truck today. Most families need one, and many use them as something of a status symbol. A fancy one is not necessarily an indication of wealth although the REAL high end stuff does. Today, there is no shortage of people living in a $20,000 trailer in a mobil home park with a $40-$50,000 (or more) diesel 4X4 parked out front, often with monster tires and lift kits etc. I have no problem visualizing a frontier settler living in a sod hut and carrying a fully decked out longrifle. I doubt that the way people think has changed much over the years. 

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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2010, 06:26:22 AM »
Also note that gunmakers tended to congregate along routes of travel West . Yet there are many exceptions.

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 03:37:49 PM »
The Firearm was just a tool, but a very needed tool, as was a tomahawk/hatchet/knife.
IMHO most firearms were just simple plain working guns, the fancy ones were the exceptions and were not as popular because of cost, I'm sure everyone wanted one, it's no different today, there are more plain jane blackpowder guns sold then fancy ones.

I look at it this way, as time went on and the American longrifle went out of style a simple plain gun got forgotton about because it was not pretty to look at, it was just like any other old tool, thrown in a corner to rot.  But! a fancy gun was a sight to behold, it was beautiful and it had soul,  it was art, it showed the love of the builder and there for people keep them and admired them for what they were.

In many books you can tell by the pictures, some fancy guns were used, alot, but most were not! I'm thankful for that, it gives use today fine examples to look at!

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 05:41:53 PM »
Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?

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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 06:03:50 PM »
First of all.... Dave..... you have quite an imagination.  (or you were a teenager in the 60's)  I'd love to see the TV commercial.

It's a great topic.  Unfortunately, we are a different society now, and we look at things through our biases.
  It would be really neat to have a real insight as to their actual sales and some photos to see what they actually got for their money. 
This is such an involved topic, and of course we have absolutely no way to confirm what we think or believe about it.

You know, if you get too wrapped up this this thing, you just might start having dreams like Dave's.
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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 06:22:18 PM »
Furthering what Gary pointed out, Virginia lost a lot of its population in the period discussed, most for points west.  Much of Kentucky, southern Ohio, southern Indiana, Kentucky and Tennesse were settled by Rev. War vets from Virginia, as well as Pennsylvania.  You will run across graves of Rev. war vets in the oddest places - some way out in the middle of the woods and now long forgotten by most.  And as Gary pointed out, the frontier culture of the times had already begun to take on legendary status - Filson's biography of Boone was published in 1784 if I recall correctly, and by the War of 1812 it almost seemed to have reached a "life imitating art" status.  I think that is why you see the flamboyant uniforms on the Kentucky frontiersmen and Militia in the War of 1812 - the fringed hunting shirts, the top hats, etc.  The William Whitley rifle by Jacob Young around 1800-1810 is a good example of a fine piece made for a well known, bigger than life character who was already a legend by the time he decided, at age 64, to enlist as a private and go fight British and Indians in Canada...

My ancestor Francis Montfort left what is now Adams County PA in the early 1780s for what is now Henry County Kentucky after serving with Washington and at Fort Pitt for 3 years.  I like to think of him carrying a nice rifle by one of the makers in that area of Pennsylvania, which was York County at the time, but I don't know - being primarily farmers, and old school Low Dutch reformed, I think their practical side might have prevented them from springing for something like a rifle unless they really needed it.  They were after land - the church members pooled all their resources and formed a "Company" and negotiated for a large tract they bought from Squire Boone, and later divided amongst the families.

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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 06:24:02 PM »
The Firearm was just a tool, but a very needed tool, as was a tomahawk/hatchet/knife.
IMHO most firearms were just simple plain working guns, the fancy ones were the exceptions and were not as popular because of cost, I'm sure everyone wanted one, it's no different today, there are more plain jane blackpowder guns sold then fancy ones.

I look at it this way, as time went on and the American longrifle went out of style a simple plain gun got forgotton about because it was not pretty to look at, it was just like any other old tool, thrown in a corner to rot.  But! a fancy gun was a sight to behold, it was beautiful and it had soul,  it was art, it showed the love of the builder and there for people keep them and admired them for what they were.

In many books you can tell by the pictures, some fancy guns were used, alot, but most were not! I'm thankful for that, it gives use today fine examples to look at!

Points to ponder and I really don't know what the answer really is.
The survivors were not used as much perhaps or did not get broken. We have not the slightest idea of what the typical rifle of 1785-1810 really looked like. It is, however, obvious that there was a pretty good market for carved guns with brass boxes.
But then we have the spectre of people upgrading guns in the 20th century.

The Antes Swivel, for example, was a VERY expensive rifle, probably 12-15 pounds or 40 dollars and it shows a lot of use.

As I pointed out previous, an 1880s Cowboy making 20-40 a month might ride a $100 saddle and have other expensive gear. The leather gear, saddles etc was generally HAND TOOLED at least to some extent. Why would a what was the "common laborer" of the west, who might not even own his own horse, ride a fancy saddle that was no more serviceable than a  plain one? If working hard they had a string of horses they rotated through. I knew a lady who grew up in the American west born sometime around 1900-1910 we calculate. I asked her about the cowboys not breaking riding horses till they were 5-6 years old. She said yes this was true "but they rode them awful hard". A young horse simply could not stand the work.
The fancy saddle, headstall and such was STATUS SYMBOL. It was a FASHION statement. Why else have long tapaderos for example? These things were/are still functional works of art. This is pretty well documented and you can find it in some of Charlie Russell's stories.
I think the decorated longrifle filled the same need.
Long/market/hide hunters were not the poor, they could and I suspect did make pretty good money so assuming they all had plain rifles because they could not afford a better one is surely not correct in all instances. Nor is a high grade gun somehow less useful/durable than a plain one. In fact a buttplate and forend cap greatly enhances durability. So we have to ask just how much use were those "barn guns" actually put to?

There are several possible conclusions, plain guns did not survive in the same percentages and the better grade guns, probably true. They did not make as many plain guns as we might think.
Some guns were better maintained over the years regardless of actual usage.
A rifle was 4-5 times more expensive than the smoothbore even if plain. The barrel was where the money was, far more iron and much more work. So a brass box and some carving was not near as big a deal.
Some seem to assume that rifle makers would keep low grade guns in stock that they could then upgrade.  Why would they? Or that they made guns in the white. Why?
I would tend to keep a high end gun in stock given the choice. Upgrading a finished gun is a PITA more work that making it that way to begin with.
Is a maker going to finish a gun and leave it hang on the wall with excess wood etc so he can carve it later?

Americans today are notoriously cheap, in general, when it comes to firearms. But not everyone.
Also one must not confuse the 18th century American rifle with the 19th Century mass produced Lemans etc, some of which were also pretty fancy. But much cheaper than the individual could make.
We have to look at what the rifle was EXPECTED to be in 1770 to get a feel for what the American rifle was at the time. Was it EXPECTED to have a patchbox, some carving etc?

Bottom line.
What you owned and wore told people WHO you were AND what YOU thought of yourself.
This WAS important and I think needs to be considered.

To carry this on a little farther.
I see the modern fad of aged guns and accouterments as the equivalent of the kids running around in ragged, holed blue jeans. Stuff I would not have been allowed to go out into public in when I was a kid in the 1950s since it would have reflected badly on my MOTHER especially and my FATHER for not providing better. Something that seems to have been lost in the hippie culture of the 60s and 70s.

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 06:58:34 PM »
Perhaps the English trade rifle with its simple brass box and some basic carving represents the norm of what was expected at the time.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 07:05:17 PM »
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the great insights and information.  Many of you focus on westward expansion and frontier trade.  I am more interested in who were the customers of the gunsmiths that did not move west or migrate anywhere.  For example, who bought Lehigh rifles from Rupp?  What customers were his bread and butter clients?  Who bought rifles from J. P. Beck or Haines?  Local farmers, businessmen?  Did Rupp, Beck, Haines and their contemporaries make a fulltime living at gunmaking or did most have to augment their incomes with farming, blacksmithing, and lockmaking work?  Populations of large game animals largely were depleted within the settled portions of much of the early US, so was small game and bird hunting sufficiently popular to support a large and diverse gunmaking trade in southeastern PA?

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 07:15:21 PM »
Some pretty interesting thoughts here. I always wondered the same, who packed those fancy rifles?

I can see some fancy foo foo on a rifle if it has some type of status symbolism attached, gift for someone say or maybe for a gentleman farmer type person.

In my mind I just can't see someone who wants to keep his scalp, collect one or collect dinner packing around one of those fancy flashing mirrors.

I also wonder, how many of those working rifles were rifles. I remember reading an article... about 1976 or so saying that many of the rifles were really smooth bores, and not all that large in caliber either.

Great discussion, thanks...
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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 08:02:37 PM »
Dave - that is an interesting thought, given that so many of the great examples in Kindig's book were, to my understanding, collected in the early 20th century within a hundred miles or less of where they were made 100-150 years earlier.  So you are right in that surely not everyone was going west.....

I do still think the romanticized notion of the frontier was probably popular, even with those who chose to stay in the older settled areas of the east.

On the fulltime gunmaking - I also believe that the more rural/ or frontier area gunmakers did make guns as an "extra" business  - even if that was their trained profession, especially on the Appalachian frontier.  This is not to imply they were not accomplished gunmakers; rather, most of the earliest gunmakers in the southern mountains were trained in places like Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania and the North Carolina piedmont region.  But the earliest ones seem to have gone west primarily as settlers, rather than following a demand for their skills as gunmakers.  They farmed, hunted, served in military campaigns in the ceasless wars with the Indians - gunmaking was only part of what they were doing. When someone local needed a rifle they were handy to have around and were likely the only game in town.... but in the relative isolation west of the mountains in the early period, say 1770-1800, they probably did not have many neighbors, much less customers, so their annual output was probably only a few rifles, if that.   Going back to Jacob Young, for example, his work indicates he was highly skilled and profesionally trained, but you read about him and his brothers being described as "excellent mechanics" with any sort of metal work, also working as surveyors for improving local roads, etc.  but very little reference to him actually building guns. But man! Could he build a fine rifle...

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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2010, 08:04:13 PM »
Many Pennsylvania rifles were found, collected, right in the same counties where they were made.  That suggests that many of them belonged to local folks.  There are ledgers for many gunsmiths also, which tell what work was done, for whom.  I will hypothesize that the work of smaller shops went to locals; farmers, merchants, etc, a cross-section of society.  If "Golden Age" means an era, not a style, then a wide variety of plain but fully mounted guns, and well-appointed, decorated guns would have been sold to nearly every man of some means or "need" for a longrifle.  Larger shops did enough work to make rifles for sale to a wider geographical customer base.  I can imagine someone needing rifles going to Lancaster to choose one, or a merchant selling the work of men like Dickert and Gonter etc.  many of these men also had government contracts during the period.
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2010, 08:17:27 PM »
I asked a similar question a while back on the collectors thread.  Long hunters definitely bought the long rifles as a tool of the trade.  A rifle would be a fair business investment for collecting hides over a largebore smoothbore.  The East was fairly well settled during the Golden Age and the firearm in many cases may have went from being a "tool" to a recreational item.  As early as 1800 the milling machine was coming into use, thanks to Eli Whitney.  We were seeing the start of the industrial revolution. Barrels were being manufactured in larger plants and the gunsmiths were making more decisions on an in house "make or buy" level.   Also the "trade rifle" was being developed such as the Derringer and the Henry by the early 1800's.  These were possibly the "plain" rifles we think about as they were incorporating more mass production techniques.  The gunsmiths building rifles were starting to be relegated to the "custom" level.  One customer for the longrifle as you think of it may be the older established trademan or farmer or merchant that just wants a rifle for his hunting trips or an afternoon neighborly turkey/beef shoot get together.  I had read somewhere that shooting matches for recreation were more popular before 1900.  Look at trap shooters today and what they spend on equipment.  

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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2010, 08:26:36 PM »
No doubt shooting matches were popular. I have seen a number of very heavy barreled Zorger rifles - beautiful things - carved, engraved etc. that I was told were built specifical for target match shooting.   

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2010, 08:36:22 PM »
I would guess that the lock and barrel was the the major cost of any rifle, weather plain or fancy. Back then is no different then today, and that being in business “Time is Money”  the more time invested in making your product the more you must charge for it, and the more money you have to charge for your product limits the number of people who could afford it. The plain jane model gun could be built faster and cheaper, which brings it into the price range of many more people.  I would think the gunsmiths of the time made more guns for the masses, not the elite. It seems to me the masses most likely had more smooth bores then rifled guns, as they would have been the cheapest to manufacture and obtain and more versatile to use.

IMHO what we see today as surviving examples of fancy guns is the exception, not the rule of the time.

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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2010, 08:38:39 PM »
Charles Hansen, The Trade Rifle Sketchbook  Direct quote.

"Trade rifles were not just made for sale to Indians, they were called "trade rifles" because they were standard commercial products of uniform quality.  They were produced in large numbers at reasonable cost.  This was in contrast to the high quality hand-made custom guns that have always been expensive and usually out of reach for the average man.  Trade rifles were serviceable guns without frills, made to standard patterns using the latest methods to speed production and lower cost.  Machine tools, water power and die forgings all contributed to increased production..... Henry and a few other Pennsylvania makers monopolized the trade rifle market until the late 1800's when rifles by Tryon and Lehman began to appear."

Derringer had one dated starting in 1809 and Henry starting in 1822.  When we have discussed the role of the rifleman in early American conflicts.  Some research has led me to believe that there were just not that many of them.  That rifles were not as common as we may have thought they were.

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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2010, 12:16:14 AM »

... When we have discussed the role of the rifleman in early American conflicts.  Some research has led me to believe that there were just not that many of them.  That rifles were not as common as we may have thought they were.DP

Once again it comes down to when and where. What was common in one area could be much less so in another. There are accounts from forts along the Ohio that come to mind. I'm sorry to say I don't have the reference at hand but the militia officer writing back east to discribe his situation said he ahd 100+ men and they all had rifles.

There is also a period account from the very early 19th century where a traveler going down the Ohio by boat is made fun of by the locals for using a smoothbore to hunt during a stop. That one I'll find and post.


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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2010, 01:20:02 AM »
The when may be part of it.  When we talk of the early 19th century rifles were more common.  The Lewis and Clark expidition comes to mind.  Clark carried his own Pennsylvania 36 but his men were armed with government issue rifles.  Some debate on which one, but they assume it predates the Harpers Ferry.  Before and around the Revolution I believe rifles may have been more scarce.  Not rare but not as many may have had them as we thought.  After 1800 manufacturing techniques started to change and barrels could be had more convieniently.  Note that the "Golden Age" barrels may not ahve had as much swamp, whcih was an indication of the newer techniques.

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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2010, 06:08:07 AM »
The when may be part of it.  When we talk of the early 19th century rifles were more common.  The Lewis and Clark expidition comes to mind.  Clark carried his own Pennsylvania 36 but his men were armed with government issue rifles.  Some debate on which one, but they assume it predates the Harpers Ferry.  Before and around the Revolution I believe rifles may have been more scarce.  Not rare but not as many may have had them as we thought.  After 1800 manufacturing techniques started to change and barrels could be had more convieniently.  Note that the "Golden Age" barrels may not ahve had as much swamp, whcih was an indication of the newer techniques.

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Rifles were common on the frontier well before the 19th century.
Where did all the rifle armed troops of the Revolution come from otherwise?
We have William Johnson pointing out that Pennsylvanians do not use small shot, but I can't find the quote right now. People like to use the request by Johnson for a rifle in the 1770s as indicating he, and by extension New Yorkers in general, did not know what they were when its obvious from his writings of 10+ years before that he was well aware of the rifle.
That rifles were widespread among the Shawnee Delawares and others prior to 1750 cannot be disputed, too much documentation.
Now I seriously doubt the Indians got the idea of rifles from the British. It was certainly from the rifle makers in PA. They had to learn about rifles somewhere and the fact that they were common in native handsin some areas by the 1740s tells me the rifle was common on the American frontier in these areas well before the F&I war. Southern tribes like the Creeks by the mid 1750s.
One of the most informative documents I have access to in this regard is  DeWitt Bailey's "British Military Flintlock Rifles". Especially Chapter 6.
Other chapters contain a number of interesting tidbits such as the English forces were ISSUING limited numbers of dedicated military rifles to some units during the French & Indian War and that there were rifles with Braddock, British issue, natives and surely with the wagoners.
So thinking the rifle was rare and unknown in Colonial America cannot be supported.
It actually has several advantages over the SB for frontier/native use. One, mentioned in the 1760s in reference to trade with the natives is that it uses less powder and lead. The easier to load SB argument is really not all that valid in the context of close range fighting. If the range is under 50 and the shot is missed you better be a fast runner or good at hand to hand.

This is another subject that its very difficult to come to a conclusion on.
For one thing gun, rifle and musket were often used with little regard to the actual arm being described.

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Re: Who bought longrifles during the Golden Age?
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2010, 07:10:20 AM »
Hi Folks,
The discussion on this thread has been enlightening but it is drifting away from my original question.  I was not asking about the number of rifles in the hands of Americans or the gunmakers on the frontiers.  I really want to know how the famous gunsmiths of eastern PA and northern Virginia made their money.  Who were their bread and butter customers.  Many of their British counterparts could barely survive without government military contracts.  Was it the same for the PA gunsmiths or was the civilian market for sporting guns sufficient for most of them?  Did they mostly sell locally or did some have agents that sold their guns in distant places?  Many famous gunsmiths went in and out of business, some several times, suggesting that the market was not always stable or secure.  That is the kind of information I am interested in.  Artisans involved in decorative arts have always fascinated me both by what they produced and how they made their livings.

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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2010, 02:35:35 PM »
When you talk of the Golden Age, (which may be Kindig's term?)  that period is generally considered running from about 1790 to maybe after the 1840's.  These were the more ornately decorated rifles.  The later part of this period saw some purchase for those involved in fur trade activities, however there were gunshops opening up in St. Louis for instance to meet that need and larger setups started to manufacture those rifles, which were not Golden Age.  As to gunsmiths going broke, that can happen anytime.  One problem is the economics of the times.  Today we have lots of cash in circulation.  Back then, doctors, ministers and teachers often received payment in goods, especially from farmers.  Barter was also more common.  Many areas, especially the Southern states had less cash.  They used to tell a story of a sharp trader that went out with a pocket knife and came back with a horse after several trade ups.  Unfortunately, some trades are more dependent upon cash, especially if you have to buy parts such as locks and barrels.  Also you can only trade so many guns (I know a modern gunsmith that went broke but who bragged that he traded a rifle for an Elk hunt).  Sales of finer rifles would have to go to those that had or could turn over a little coin or readily transferable goods.  Long hunters sold furs and hides.  Actually furs and hides were a form of currency, as a NWTG went for 20 beaver hides or equivalents in other furs and hides.   
El Whitney was one of the more famous for his government contract in that his guns were supposed to have interchangeable parts.  These were the government contract guns.  The government was also not known to be quickly forthcoming in payment, such that some could have gone broke waiting for their money from the government.  The Indian trade names that jump out are Deringer, Henry, Tryon Krider, leman and earlier Wheeler.  Not a lot of the others went West.  However some areas of the East were still frontier in the early 1800's and those may have been a source for sales.  A rifle cost about $15 and a smoothbore about $5.  With average yearly incomes less than $100 and maybe closer to $75 rifles may have been a luxury.  In some areas, such as where I live, the Natives were quite content to use smoothbores as shots were close anyway.  Further west in the plains areas, rifles were needed.  However the Industrial revolution was also having an effect on their cost and availability and the "trade rifles" mentioned were maybe half of the cost of some of the custom ones.
Also, contrary to popular belief, while rifle ownership might be called common it was likely far from universal. 

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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2010, 02:39:18 PM »
dave,
           Common sense tells us that they sold to anybody who had money for there product, back then almost everyone outside of major cities needed some form of a "Gun"
One would think most Gunsmiths by trade didn't make most of there money from building guns, it was the "other" work like blacksmithing, tool making, gun repair or whatever job that they could do that brought in the most money. Also the slow times may have been because they could not get parts like locks and barrels or even good iron to make them locks and barrels themselfs.  I would assume that if a gunsmith had to make the lock and barrel, that would add considerable more time to building the gun.  I would also think by setting up on major travel routes/roads also adds not only to selling more guns, but also gets more of the "other" work.

My question would be more like "What kind of gun did the average person have" was it a trade gun, plain jane working gun, Fancy gun?

IMHO I'm thinking 99% of people outside of major cities were dirt poor, and because of that they used trade/plain jane guns more, my gut feeling is if they had any gun that worked, they were happy as heck!