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Offline Roger B

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Brass or bronze barrels
« on: August 10, 2010, 06:04:25 PM »
Does anyone make them?  Grandpa wants to build an all brass rifle including barrel.
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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 06:51:27 PM »
Getz will make them.

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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2010, 07:03:35 PM »
I believe that Ed Rayl makes pistol, rifle and blunderbuss barrels in brass/bonze.

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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 07:25:09 PM »
They're not "off the rack" items. You'll likely find that they are special items requiring (sometimes) considerable wait for what you want, unless they happen to be running that profile, length, caliber, etc. But they will do them.
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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2010, 10:07:53 PM »
Depending on what you want, Ed Rayl may even have one in stock, and may be a bit faster than Getz to get.  Be prepared to pay a sizable amount more than a steel barrel.  All brass gun, does Grampa know that brass frizzens don't spark very well ;D ::)

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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2010, 12:32:28 AM »
Keep in mind that the brass/bronze barrels are heavier than steel barrels.

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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 01:14:56 AM »
Depending on what you want, Ed Rayl may even have one in stock, and may be a bit faster than Getz to get.  Be prepared to pay a sizable amount more than a steel barrel.  All brass gun, does Grampa know that brass frizzens don't spark very well ;D ::)

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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 02:11:04 AM »
Yes, spendy. I talked to Ed about a brass (they're actually bronze) barrel once, and I recall the price being more than double the same barrel in steel. Price of the copper in the alloy, you know.
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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 03:40:59 AM »
Actually I have two locks with Brass lockplates, one a Late Ketland I got from Barbie last year, and a M&G I plan on using on a Lehigh  Stophil Long style.

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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2010, 05:09:34 AM »
 Grandpa wants to build an all brass rifle including barrel.
Roger B.


Hmmmm, just think of the contrast of brass barrel and lock with forged iron furniture?  ;D ;D



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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2010, 11:23:17 PM »
I made a copy of the Brass Barrel Rifle and waited 17 months for ED Rayl to make the barrel ( well worth the wait!!!!).

Offline Don Getz

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Re: Brass or bronze barrels
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2010, 03:59:40 PM »
Brass has become expensive to buy, which is one reason they might cost more.   But, the main reason from a barrel makers point of view is the fact that they are a real PITA to make.    When drilling the hole in a piece of brass you must
do different things.   There is cutting oil pumped thru the drill under pressure to wash the chips out of the hole, the oil
then circulates back into a reservoir to be re-pumped.   The oil flows thru a field of magnets to pull the small particles of
steel out of the oil.   Guess what?    those magnets don't attract brass, so you must set up strainers to catch all of the
brass chips.  After the hole is drilled, the blank is turned concentric around the hole on a lathe.   This also fun since brass
seems to heat up rather quickly and will warp, so, you pull it out of the lathe and straighten it, then start over.   You would also think it woud turn nice in the lathe, being brass.....not so, squeals, can do a lot of crazy things.  So, generally
speaking, brass barrels are not fun to do, they do look neat when finished, but must be priced accordingly...expensive.
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