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Offline bama

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patch box design
« on: August 29, 2010, 12:59:08 AM »
This is a layout of a patch box that is using 2 different patch boxes. The upper part of the box is from an original box that I have. The door and side plates are from a Peter White box that Jim Kibler sent me pictures of. The engraving on the Peter White box and the layout of the volutes are are very similar to my box plus the the engaving along the edge of the door of the Peter White box is almost Identical to my box.

I think the combination looks pretty good. What does the the group here think.

Jim Kibler what do you think about this combination?

« Last Edit: August 29, 2010, 01:00:15 AM by bama »
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Re: patch box design
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 03:13:03 AM »
Looking good. I like it.
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Re: patch box design
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 04:25:56 AM »
 A keeper, for sure! ;D

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Re: patch box design
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 06:58:39 AM »
I like it and think it looks great!

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Re: patch box design
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2010, 07:06:53 AM »
Jim,

I think it could probably work, with suitable engraving on the lid and side plates, to tie it all together.

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Re: patch box design
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2010, 03:15:57 PM »
Jim,

Picking up on Jeff's comment about tying the side pieces in with the finial, I have a suggestion since you have asked for comment and not claiming to be able to do much more in the field of engraving other than looking at other peoples' work and sketching designs.

If you look at the finial, where the scrolls extend forward on the upper and lower margins from the hinge and intersect the scrolls returning from the forward end of the finial, there are small design elements that fill the space such that the main portions of the scrolls do not touch.
The scrolls on the side pieces do not have similar elements.  There may be opportunities to insert this element in the side pieces, such as the scrolls near the rear screws, to reinforce this desigh.   Also, the engraving treatment around the screws could be treated in a uniform manner.  I like the rosette treatment in the finial design.

Just a couple thoughts after my first cup of coffee.

I do like the general design quite a bit.

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Re: patch box design
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2010, 04:04:17 PM »
Can you add a fourth pettal to the flower finial, one that goes down into the piercing? I would draw this out and see what it looks like. If you thought it looked better then you could incorperate it into the final design. Just my thoughts as I rub me eyes this morn.     Gary

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2010, 04:26:25 PM »
I would say that, regarding artistic value,  your design is much better than some period originals.  Engraving will blend it together and you'll have not only something beautiful but also unique.  Don't alter a thing; just do it.

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Re: patch box design
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 05:08:47 PM »
Jim,

I think the side panels go well with the finial.  Think you have a winner with this combination.  Good Luck!

Jim
« Last Edit: August 29, 2010, 05:09:21 PM by Jim Kibler »

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Re: patch box design
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 05:29:27 PM »
I like it.  It sort of has that Sheetz flare.  I look forward to see the rifle that eill hold it.
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Re: patch box design
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2010, 05:56:50 PM »
Jim, a fine original patchbox and a very fine side plate design. I too would go with what you have come up with.
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Re: patch box design
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2010, 06:52:27 PM »
Thanks guys

I think that I will go with it as is. Larry the side plates do have the shading I think you are taking about but the engraving did not show up well in my scan.  I am starting the box today so I will try to take some pictures along the way.
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Re: patch box design
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 02:29:43 AM »
Jim,
That was the only nit I could pick.
Looks real good.
Please do post photos as the work progresses.
Thanks,
Larry Luck

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Re: patch box design
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 04:16:40 PM »
Just do it.

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