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Rick Sheets:
How authentic are track's Eastern stlye bags? I know they are mass produced and have machine stitching, but are they kind of right to mate with a 1760ish Southern rifle?
I would make one myself, but would not know where to start.

art riser:
You might want to check out bags made by several contemporary artists.  For really great old looking bags you can't beat Joe and Brad Mills, John Barrett, Ken Scott, Jack Hubbard, Jeff Cline, and Tim Albert.  For bags with a less aged look you can't go wrong with Ed Wilde, Greg Hudson, Calvin Tanner, Jeanne McDonald, Frank Willis, Ernie Boyd and Pete Hutton.  Many of these makers can be seen on the Contemporary Makers blog.  There is also a long list of makers on the CLA site.

James Rogers:
For those prices listed, you could get a nice handsewn one with more correct leather sewn with linen thread. I would avoid the rings and excessive pockets also. For "modern" muzzleloading shooting in a traditional manner, the bag you mention is nice and should hold up well.

Original bags for the time frame you mention are virtually non-existent. By sticking with the basics you will come closer to an original bag used in America.
I am assuming since you say you cant make one yourself, you would have purchased a bag from a harness maker had you been in the 1760's? If so, the quality can be like that of a harness making craftsman. I am of the opinion that if a bag was purchased in this time frame, it would have been a neatly made but bare bones bag, ready made as a side item by a craftsman who produced many other items for his bread and butter. 

Many of the really nice contemporary works of art  bags are not in my opinion representative of something used in colonial America.

art riser:
It would seem to me that the bag carried by an individual would be directly related to financial status and proximity to a city.  The cities had leather workers producing the same quality products that were made in England and on the continent.  The colonists were aware of of these products whether they could afford them or not.  Case in point, a weskit on the frontier looked very much like its counterpart in the cities, just not as elaborate.  When people emigrated to the colonies they did not just suddenly forget all they knew. 

Some folks on the frontier might have carried a rather nice shot pouch either brought with them or if they had the skills, made by them.  It's also possible that they knew someone who could make a rather decent bag for them. 

There were probably also bags of simple construction.  A bag in the Smithsonian supposedly carried by a soldier in the Revolutionary War is really nothing more than a square crudely made from what appears to be home tanned leather.

All conjecture.  I can't say with certainty what was carried but after years of study these are my thoughts on the matter.

don getz:
Rick....I would be curious as to what 1760 period "southern" rifle you have copied, since there are very few Pennsylvania
rifles from that period in existence?   When people talk about building a "pre-revolutionary" style gun, they don't realize
that the pickins' are mighty slim...........Don


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