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Offline rich pierce

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original tinder box/bag with striker
« on: December 25, 2010, 08:07:56 PM »
For Christmas Susan bought me this original tinder bag/box with integral striker.  It still has some tinder in it!  The striker is made from a file; I can still see some teeth where it was incompletely ground off.  I thought it was very cool for many reasons.  It shows that files were re-used and also I had no idea these would be so small.  Apparently this is all they needed- a little fluff, a musket flint and a striker.





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Offline John SMOthermon

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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2010, 08:15:16 PM »
Very nice ,You're a lucky man Rich.
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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 12:07:53 AM »
That is really cool, You are a lucky man for sure!

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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2010, 12:55:46 AM »
Wow, is that ever small, is it hard to handle when striking?   Gary

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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 03:54:31 AM »
The bag acts like a gripper- seems pretty easy to use.  But I am going to leave the patina undisturbed...
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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 05:05:59 AM »
Have seen a couple of these and have a friend who replicated one. It is small enough to carry easily and is not hard to use.
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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2010, 05:37:59 PM »
Very nice indeed!

And with the way the dollar is going, should make some good tinder soon!


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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 08:18:05 PM »
They're really neat, cool little things, and actually work,
but,
evidently not actually made in the US. ???

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=7933.0

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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2010, 10:00:15 PM »
Interesting, it also seems these things have been found in New England and the middle Atlantic states associated with other 18th century artifacts.  The book "The American Hearth: Colonial and Post-Colonial Cooking Tools" by Richard I Barons and  Devere Card illustrates a near-identical tinder pouch.  Course that doesn't mean that such tinder boxes weren't made in China, Tibet, etc.  The one I bought was found in an estate near Utica, New York, toward the western end of the Mohawk valley.  Certainly could be mid-1800's and traded from the Far East.
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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2010, 11:47:57 PM »
I agree. I'm not throwing mine away, no matter where it might have been made!
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Re: original tinder box/bag with striker
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 02:05:01 AM »
Nice find Rich!
IIRc there was a discussion else where on this style striker/pouch and the earliest Euro provenance was circa 1811 (check with Wick Ellerbe?? - who made one)
The style apparently comes from northern India/Tibet/Nepal - the English British East Indies Company had been trading with India since at least the early 1600's. This style also shows up failry frequently in California and the SW USA - Kit Carson had one in his kit. On the US west coast the trade with India and China started in the late 1700's and was big time by the early 1800's - sea otter furs were a main trade item as were raw cowhides and tallow.
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