Having trouble, Need help

[LURCHWV@BJS]

  I am wanting to build an Early Virginia rifle with a 48in Swamped barrel.  I am looking for a partial pre-carve with a wider buttsock and a drop of less than 3inches.  All of the stocks I have found for an Early Virginia rifle have drops greater than 3 inches slightly curved buttplates and the combs are slighly thinner than what I've seen in the rifle attributed as an early Virginia Valley Rifle as on Eric Kettenburg's website.  I am not trying to make a fantasy gun, I really want to stay as PC as possible.  I really need the collective's expirence on this.


   Rich

[rich pierce]

I believe Mike Brooks has a kit for the F. Klette rifle.  He might be able to work something for you. 

[LURCHWV@BJS]

Mike's Klette kit is right along the line I'm looking for, but  it is for a 42in barrel only


    Rich

[rich pierce]

Never hurts to ask directly.  Pretty sure Mike doesn't keep 100 of these in stock and does go get new stocks made now and again.

[KLMoors]

Mike may be able to get one done for a 48 inch barrel. I think you'd have to send the barrel and blank to get it done but I bet it could be done.

[Bill of the 45th]

Also consider giving Dave Keck a call, as he now has all of Fred Miller's patterns, many of which haven't been used in ages.  It's worth the call, and where I would go if Mike can't fix you up.

Bill

[flintriflesmith]

Mike's Klette kit is right along the line I'm looking for, but  it is for a 42in barrel only
    Rich

If you are, as your post stated, wanting to build a "Virginia Valley Rifle" you can forget the Klette. The style is not even close and he worked in the Piedmont between Fredericksburg and Culpeper.
Gary

[LURCHWV@BJS]

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Mike's Klette kit is right along the line I'm looking for, but  it is for a 42in barrel only

I did contact Mike, It's where I got my information.  As for the Rifle I mentioned on Eric Kettenburg's website It was attributed to the Virginia Valley.  The Klette rifle is exactly what I am looking for.  Please remember I am still learning.  Please forgive me if I refer the wrong style to a particular area.  I'm only as knowledgeable as the information I read.  If someone notices I have called something for what it is not please explain it to me.  I love to be politicly correct.    And I am really trying not to be as argumentitive as I have  been in the past.


    Rich

[flintriflesmith]

Rich,
The F. Klette rifle is not much like the rifle on Eric's web site. You may have read that he said his ia an interpretation based on the J. Farber rifle (Augusta CO. VA) and the running deer rifle which may be a bit farther south in Botetourt Co. VA.

The original Kleet and Farber are both published in Rifles of Colonial America.

Here is a link to a rifle made by Dave Wagner that is -- although not intended as a copy -- inspired by the Klette rifle. The pictures of the rifle are second from the top on this web page. Dave made ALL of this rifle. Lock, stock and barrel as they say. It was his first all handmade rifle and made near the end of his apprenticeship in the CWf shop.
http://www.flintriflesmith.com/GunshopEraGuns/work_by_others.htm

Gary

[G-Man]

Rich - Jim Chambers "Mark Silver" Virginia kit is inspired by the same original as Eric's.  I believe it has a stock shape and drop closer to what you are looking for.  I can't speak for Jim and Barbie but if you like that style give them a call and ask about a stock for a special order barrel like yours.  I do believe that stock is profiled for a fairly stout barrel so might not work if your barrel is farily slender.  However, I know they have in the past worked with customers that way - but it just depends on what the limitations of their tooling are. 

Or I also agree on trying Dave Keck.  Huge variety of stock patterns now and not all of them are on his website.

Guy

[Sean]

Look at Fred Miller's feather gun precarve on Dave Keck's web page.

[Richard Snyder]

Is Fred Miller no longer carving stocks?

[blackdog]

Tip Curtis also has a ton of patterns, you might want to try him too.

[Don Getz]

Rich..........yes, Fred finally quit doing barrel work, sold all of his patterns to Dave Keck.   Dave would probably be the best bet
to get something like this done.......butt shape and inlet for a 48" barrel.   As for getting Mike's kit, or one of Jim Chambers kits
made with a 48" barrel, it can't be done.    You have to realize how these stock machines work.....they can only COPY, cannot
create.    Dave Keck, Mark Weader, and others work in a different mode.   They have many stock patterns but copy only the
butt portion of the gun.   After doing that, they can inlet any barrel, but, they are two separate operations.......Don

[billd]

Just a note about Dave's feather gun pattern.  It has the butt plate already inlet. The pull is rather short.  Knowing how tall Rich is, make sure you tell Dave not to inlet the butt plate. 

Bill