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newknapper

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Handle Best for Carving
« on: March 17, 2011, 07:21:01 PM »
I am looking at the Pfeil carving tools and I am wondering should I get the tools with the long handles or the ones with the small palm grips on them. Any suggestions?

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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 07:38:21 PM »
Not sure how long, long is, but I think you'll want some of each.
Here are some of the ones I use most (5 of 50+).
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 07:39:10 PM »
I think the answer is "yes".  If you can afford them both, go for it.  I have a few of the long handled ones, and a set of Lee Valley micro palm chisels that get lots of use.
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 07:44:23 PM »
Not sure how long, long is, but I think you'll want some of each.

Sorry. According to Pfeil the handle is 6 inches wit an overall length of11 1/2

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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 07:46:20 PM »
Oh, those. I have a set and NEVER use them.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 07:49:38 PM »
Oh, those. I have a set and NEVER use them.

Ok, thanks. I am just trying to build my tools up and tought I would ask around t see what was te best all around.

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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 07:55:50 PM »
That's a nice try-stock Tom!

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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 08:15:29 PM »
Thanks, John.
Here is another important carving tool, for me anyway...a "Chisel Chase". See it on the right of this pic. Nothing fancy, just rasped out of a chunck of maple firewood. I have a smaller one too.
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 10:44:45 PM »
You big tease.  Whatcha buildin?   ::)
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2011, 11:47:56 PM »
Teaser? That was a Shroyer I built about 3 yrs. ago.
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2011, 01:04:11 AM »
I would suggest full size handles.  They can be driven with a mallet or can be pushed with the hand.  To me they offer more control than a palm tool when pushing by hand.

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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2011, 01:51:46 AM »
I started out thinking the palm style was what would work for me.  I do use them once in a while now but find the Pfiel's with the long handle is used much more and Pfiel also has an intermediate length I like a lot.  It has about the same long handle but is shorter over all. 

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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 02:27:34 AM »
I really like the intermediate size. The fullsize ones just seem to big to me. I have a few of the palm sized ones (mostly #3 and #5). Am able to do most of what I want with the intermediate size handles.

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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 04:00:39 AM »
I like the longer handles for just about every project on the rifle. I only prefer the palm tools for MODELING the relief carving. My parting tool, fishtail gouges, flat chisels are all long, and I much prefer them over the short tools for their better control. I can use two hands on a long tool to control the shaking. ;D
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 04:13:00 AM »
In modeling using full size handled tools, I find it best to hold the chisel similarly to a pencil, but at of course a lower angle.  Your off hand is also guiding the tool.  I'm sure I won't be able to explain it, but the technique offers a great deal of control.  Once you get the feel, it works wonderfully.
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 05:14:52 AM »
I would suggest full size handles.  They can be driven with a mallet or can be pushed with the hand.  To me they offer more control than a palm tool when pushing by hand.

I agree with Jim. I happen to have mostly the Lamp brand with just a few Pfiel but they are all full size.
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 10:05:45 AM »
Long.  Even my small detail tools have the shape of the long handles but are tapered so you can hold them knuckles down with your thumb on top of the cutter to help with control.
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2011, 03:39:57 PM »
Thaks for all your responses. They have helped alot.

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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 04:48:29 PM »
I have an intermediate length and the standard length set. I do not see much difference between them for my usage. The longer does not get in the way, so if I bought one I would do those.
Check out the 1/2" chisel they came out with a year or so back. It is a great tool for scraping and cutting. I grab it most often of all. A 5mm gouge, a 3/8 gouge, and a dble cut skew chisel are the main ones I use. A V tool is great for outline and detailing cuts, too!

A Flex gold stick for polishing an edge is a good buy too.
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Re: Handle Best for Carving
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2011, 06:05:29 PM »
I have an intermediate length and the standard length set. I do not see much difference between them for my usage. The longer does not get in the way, so if I bought one I would do those.
Check out the 1/2" chisel they came out with a year or so back. It is a great tool for scraping and cutting. I grab it most often of all. A 5mm gouge, a 3/8 gouge, and a dble cut skew chisel are the main ones I use. A V tool is great for outline and detailing cuts, too!

A Flex gold stick for polishing an edge is a good buy too.


Thanks for the reccomendations