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holzwurm

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Violin peg tapering ream
« on: March 31, 2011, 08:56:50 PM »
I have a small violin peg which I want to use as a powder horn plug. Does aney one have a tapered reamer of the correct taper who would fit the peg to the horn? I don't know what degree the taper is. Be happy to pay shop rates for the job  :)

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 09:26:25 PM »
Could you just drill it a bit undersize and then wrap emery around it to make a kind of reamer?

If you have an extra one make a slit down the center of the shaft then place the paper or cloth in the slit. Let it stick out on just one side and you have a holder with just the right taper. Turn by hand or brace, it might work faster than you think.

holzwurm

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 09:28:56 PM »
great idea - thanks

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 09:37:55 PM »
I have one that I got through a instrument maker supply store.  It is the exact taper of a standard fiddle peg.  Be glad to help.

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 11:57:13 PM »
 How about using the tang of a file? Put it in the hole push and twist, go slow or you will split the tip.

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 01:55:43 AM »
I bought a tapered reamer at Sears for less than 10 dollars a long time ago. Till then, I just used the tang of a file as the gentleman said. It's a wee bit slower but actually, works just as good.

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holzwurm

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 02:57:15 AM »
thanks for all the offers and help. I step drilled the hole and am now working on it with a file tang. I used a tapered file for a while but was afraid I'd split the horn. A round file will screw right in like a . . . well, screw. Apparently the way they are cut makes them have a pattern that comes close to a screw thread.

I also tried using another peg with sand paper - didn't go so well  :-[

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 04:29:03 AM »
Grizzly, sells these reamers. If I'm not mistaken, Wood craft sells them too.  BJH
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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 05:11:12 AM »
Yep - sharpened file tang
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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2011, 07:03:24 AM »
Stewart Macdonald instrument supply or Luthiers Mercantile will have the ream for the hole as well as the shaver to taper the peg.
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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2011, 08:48:27 PM »
 I may be a bit late on replying (just got back from Tennessee), but I don't like stopper plugs to be tapered. So, I would drill the pour hole to the size of the small end of the peg, then with a file "de-taper" the peg straight and a close fit. This is easier to do than tapering the hole.
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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2011, 07:00:38 AM »
use a round file, but dont screw it in , turn it the wrong way , like screwing it out while pushing it in.

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2011, 06:47:53 PM »
Al, you beat me to it.  I'm lucky - I have a reamer that was my dad's.  It is about 4 1/2" long x 1/8" at tip and 5/16" at the handle.  The handle is a small Jacob's chuck.  Cuts like a dream and makes a nice long taper.
I've used fiddle pegs for stoppers lots of times, and currently have a favourite horn that uses one.  But the best horn plug is made from pine or spruce, or maybe basswood, poplar, or cottonwood.  It should be of a soft wood that will compress and expand.  They stay put in the horn much better than a hardwood peg, especially a peg of exotic wood like ebony or rosewood with their natural oils that work against you.  A soft peg will have less of a tendency to split the horn too.
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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2011, 07:14:27 PM »
I have used a tapered plug, but no more.  They are just a wedge waiting for the opportunity to split the horn.  Snug but not forced fit straight plug of soft wood is the way for me.  Make the plug end  a little longer so it takes more to accidentally knock it out of the horn, like 1 1/2 to 2 inches.  Put just a little beeswax on the plug lip if you want to make it a bit sticky and more water proof.

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Re: Violin peg tapering ream
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2011, 08:35:58 PM »
Thanks to the suggestions - especially about the file tang. I step drilled the horn just a little to speed things up and then used a 12" file tang for the final fitting. Took me about an hour while watching TV. I've had this horn laying around the shop for more years than I can recall. It was a blanket pick-up from somewhere and I decided to used it in Kentucky this year rather than one of my brass powder jugs.

Also the tip about using wax will be useful - thanks for that too. The fit isn't violin tight - a good straight push sets the peg and a slight twist will pull it out. No hammer handed force at all. I have some nice brain tan I can cut a string keeper for the peg and attach it to the ring in the horn. Life is good! ;D

   
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