Twisted Wire method of attachment

[Rick Sheets]

Here is a loop of wire, which is soldered together then twisted. The picture is of a WW2 Era oil can that has the stopper attached in this method.

This is a very neat way of attaching most anything to anything. I was thinking of using it to attach a strap to the throat of a 18Century style powder horn to a strap.

Do any of you know how early this wire loop could have been used?

Thanks,
Rick

[Jerry V Lape]

I don't know when the technology to produce wire came into being?   Barbed wire and telegraph wire were available mid 1800s before civil war but not sure it existed in quantity much before then.   To produce it in quantity takes quite bit of equipment. 

[Kermit]

Wire has been pulled for millenia. I think the Egyptians did it by pulling metal through a stone bead, IIRC.

[Cory Joe Stewart]

The Ancient Chinese used the same "pulling" process to make gold thread.

Coryjoe

[Rick Sheets]

I have seen Rev War repro's of pick and wisk sets using chain made from clinched wire. So I am pretty sure wire was at least available around that time.
The twisted loop attachment is so basic I would think it would have been used in the 18th Century, but I would love to see an example.
Thanks,
Rick

[B.Habermehl]

Sure this could stir up a bit of discussion. With all the tecnology that was availible in the period, soldering and manufacturing wire is certainly reasonable. The big problem is documentation for the application, for the really zealous thread counters. BJH

[Tim Crosby]

  Grant’s The Kentucky Rifle Hunting Pouch has a few examples of pick and brush sets on chains, dates ?  I have looked through all of my reference material and do not see were twisted wire, like your example,  was used for attaching a strap to a horn. I have seen what looks like eye hooks with the eye formed by wrapping the wire back around itself. Like this example with two tag ends that were bent over inside the horn, in the base before it was attached and one in the neck area with one tag cut off.  An yes that is a piece of wire but I could twist it up quickly so that’s what I used.
  Some horns with Brass, Silver or Pewter bands at the base and neck that have a twisted wire going through an eye connected to the band. In one case the eye was used to keep the bands tight.  Similar to the one shown on page 140 of Grinslade’s  Powder Horns Documents of History, only smaller, like an eye hook with an eye at both ends the one for the strap being a little larger.
  Now, as to time frame, I do not have good documentation for what I have seen in person and almost didn’t comment because of that.  
 May or may not be of help.

 Tim C.