Author Topic: Question about an original walnut stocked Bucks Co? rifle posted on blogspot  (Read 5065 times)

Offline rich pierce

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http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2011/05/2011-33rd-tennessee-kentucky-rifle-show.html

If interested please go down to the 4th picture.  Looks like a walnut stocked, side-opening patchbox gun with some Bucks County traits; could pre-date the classic style.  The gun was shown at the 2011 33rd Tennessee Kentucky Rifle Show.  Anybody know more about the gun?  If you know the owner, etc you might tell them I'd like to learn and see more.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 01:13:53 AM by rich pierce »
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Offline b bogart

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Really? Bucks County? I don't see it. But then again I'm not much of an expert ;D

Offline rich pierce

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Like Mr. Russell above, the signatures I see are on this rifle which are present on later Bucks County rifles are the side-opening patchbox and the thumbnails on the guard and buttplate.  Somehow the sheet brass, multi-knuckle hinged side-opening patchbox was kept in Bucks County rifles after previously appearing on seemingly distantly related gins like RCA 42 and the Deschler rifle.  We don't know what the rifle the Leyendecker box came from, looked like.  There are "Lehigh" side-openers but these rarely if ever show the double arch underline and look architecturally related to Bucks County rifles to me (long-wristed). This one could be intermediate as "longrifle evolution" was certainly not a linear process.  Lots of blending of influences.  It's sure fun to imagine it's related in some way to the earlier? Deschler rifle and later Bucks County rifles whose architecural prototype, in my mind, is represented by the Antes rifle with the daisy patchbox in RCA 1.
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Offline Tom Currie

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It's always cool to see something we havent see before. I like the somewhat whimsical engraving style.

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Allemaengel?

Offline Eric Kettenburg

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Call me cynical but something smells funny.  Just a first impression, and an uneducated one based upon 3 photos. Would like to see many more pictures.  Art?
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Offline Nate McKenzie

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Do I see Christian Springs influence?

Offline rich pierce

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Do I see Christian Springs influence?

Well, no evidence of a stepped wrist.  The toe line looks straight unlike classic Bucks county guns.  The lock looks really early; the guard is intermediate in profile between the early, rail well off the wrist style and later Bucks County style.  The finials on the guard and buttplate sure evoke later Bucks county guns.
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