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Offline Jerry V Lape

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Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« on: June 06, 2011, 02:51:57 AM »
How thick should the brass be for making Lancaster sideplates and how deep is the decorative bevel?  I have used commercial ones in the past and won't be doing it this time. 

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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 03:30:34 AM »
Jerry:  I make all of my side plates from solid stock.   It is usually 3/16" thick and then I file a bevel on that is 1/2 of the thickness. see photo:         Hugh Toenjes
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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 03:32:43 AM »
Originals are often about 1/8".  No need to inlet deeper than just to have it in, not on, the stock.
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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 05:21:35 AM »
I use 1/8" on my side plates that stand proud.  1/16" inlet and 1/16" above the surface of the stock.  If it is a flush side plate then I use 1/16".
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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 07:02:27 AM »
I also use 1/8" brass stock.  I use my Vernier's calipers to scribe a line along the centre of the edge, and inlet to the line, and bevel the plate to the line as well.  You could inlet a little less - say 1/32" as there is normally not much wood there, and it is a weak area of the stock.
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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 07:22:38 AM »
It depends on the period. Early 1/8th in. half in, half out.  Later, a little thinner, half in, half out. Later flush ( Fordney, Gibbs, Dreddard) 1/16 th or thicker.

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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 05:19:12 PM »
It depends on the period. Early 1/8th in. half in, half out.  Later, a little thinner, half in, half out. Later flush ( Fordney, Gibbs, Dreddard) 1/16 th or thicker.

Bill when you say early, later, later would you be willing to hazard a guess at the years when these changes evolved... just as benchmarks...
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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 07:44:25 AM »
In really general terms, Early is 1780's or earlier. At the point where you see flush sideplates common is later and everything else is in between and overlapping.

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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 03:30:59 PM »
Sorry I don't have a better picture.
Jacob Dickert about 1800. The plate is a little over 1/8" thick.
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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 07:36:57 AM »
Of course. The trend is general. That's the point. You may find something from 1820 with a 1/8th in. sideplate.

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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 02:54:28 PM »
Bill,
My post wasn't meant to disagree with your comment, just to show how the side plate bevel was done on this rifle.

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Re: Lancaster sideplate brass thickness
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 07:19:18 AM »
JTR, I know. Your post helps the point. There are trends but not hard and fast rules.