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Help with unfinished fullstock
« on: August 28, 2011, 09:30:09 PM »
This was intended to be a fullstock silver inlaid rifle, I think.   I purchased a couple stocks and boxes of parts at an estate auction.  When I got home I realized that there was a complete unassembled lock, trigger guard, ramrod ferrules etc.  I started piecing it together and found that the gun was already inlaid for the
ferrules, trigger guard and lock.  They dropped right in.  I think another guy bought the barrel at the auction.  It was from Dixie gunworks.  Can anyone tell me if this tang is for a dixie breechplug and what I need to know to order the
right one?  The barrel inletting appears to be just over 7/8th straight.  I'm thinking I might like to complete this rifle.  It would be my first build.    Lastly, I don't care for that swooping cheek piece.  Could it be modified to an earlier era look or is it too late?  Also in the box were 2 brass toilet bowl patchboxes.  If I can't modify the cheek, I think one of them would be more appropriate for the build, but I don't want to spend my time building a gun that I won't care for.
Also,  I just taped the silver piece in place to get a feel for what it would look like.
 Any help would be appreciated.





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Re: Help with unfinished fullstock
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2011, 10:22:56 PM »
could be wrong but it appears to me to be a full stock Hawken
the cheeck piece looks to be of Hawken shape,
if the barrel is just over 7/8ths, would be very hard to find one, as Most barrels are a standard size,
and appears to be a L&R Durs Egg lock. cant see what triggers are in it,
but your going to need a long bar type Hawken trigger,
or use a wood screw at the end of the tang
seems to be a Hawken or maybe a Tennessee style stock that some one has tryed to turn into a Pennsylvania style rifle
only flintlocks remain interesting..

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Re: Help with unfinished fullstock
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2011, 11:13:11 PM »
  It does look like a Hawken full stock parts set that someone tried to turn into something else. This often is a bad idea. The lock appears to be an L&R late flint style or Ashmore. The German silver inlays really aren't a good choice for this rifle--if it is a Hawken. More photographs would be helpful, particularly of the stock in full profile and of the triggerplate area.
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Re: Help with unfinished fullstock
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2011, 12:52:28 AM »
Given that, would I be better off to finish it without a patchbox at all or would the
toilet bowl be more appropriate.  I am not knowledgeable about Hawkens.  Do you know anything about that tang.  I believe it was made by Dixie, but I see one
just like it in TOW.  Would a Hawken have had a percussion lock?  I assume this
was inlet for the Dixie barrel that sold at the auction.  Should have gotten it.
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Help with unfinished fullstock
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2011, 01:09:15 AM »
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if the barrel is just over 7/8ths, would be very hard to find one
Dixie did have a bunch of "house brand" barrels that were just over 7/8ths.  I had the same problem as Suzkat and ended up drawfiling the blasted thing to make it fit into a 7/8ths inlet.  I think they must have been metric.
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Re: Help with unfinished fullstock
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2011, 02:12:33 AM »
Suzkat,

I see you're in Ohio.  If you go to Friendship, take your stock with you.  I'm sure someone will have a 7/8 barrel and will be willing to let you drop it in the channel.  Fits?  Great!  If too loose, buy a 15/16, provided you have enough wood left to open the channel 1/32 on each side.

Save the silver inlays and the patchboxes for a future project.

A flint, fullstock Hawken.... cool. 

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Re: Help with unfinished fullstock
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2011, 03:38:15 AM »
Thanks for the advice and counsel.
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.