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Offline alex e.

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bayonet lug
« on: November 13, 2008, 05:40:34 PM »
Not rifle building. But....

For an up coming project. I need to mount a bayonet. Am Ito assume that it is best to  sweat/brase the lug in place? I cannot see solder being strong enough.

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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2008, 06:28:49 PM »
I would braze or silver braze. soft solder, plumber's 95/5, staybrite, etc is just good for looks. If you are going to gore someone, you don't want the lug falling off halfway through the job.
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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 04:03:30 AM »
A little graphic :o :o  But thats what I thought also.

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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2008, 04:15:43 AM »
I guess it's too gory to think about, but that's what it's for. You see Hudson Valley fowlers that have been shrtened a bit, and have a front sight that could pass as a lug, kind of blockish. I imagine the fowlers got used in the Rev war, and for militia groups later on.
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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2008, 04:17:03 AM »
Alex:  Are you adding something to the smoothbore shoot next year? :o

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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2008, 05:51:08 AM »
Alex:  Are you adding something to the smoothbore shoot next year?
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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2008, 02:57:46 PM »
Alex,

I have made a couple of muskets, both English and American and I dovetail the lug in place with a YERY SMALL dovetail and then hard solder or braze it in place. It should be able to withstand repeated thrusts when using the bayonet!!!!!

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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2008, 04:39:03 PM »
Alex,

I have made a couple of muskets, both English and American and I dovetail the lug in place with a YERY SMALL dovetail and then hard solder or braze it in place. It should be able to withstand repeated thrusts when using the bayonet!!!!!

Michael





That's the way they were done at the arsenals. Nothing else will stand up to the hard service required.
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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2008, 05:06:46 PM »
Somebody tick you off at Louisburg last year?  Perhaps that Sgt. that required you to hang your firelock from the trigger to prove the soundness of the half cock???
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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2008, 04:58:55 AM »
Not having done this before:The heat from soldering is one thing,  The heat from brazing is another,Will that much heat cause any distortion to the barrel?

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Re: bayonet lug
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 11:39:49 PM »
Lugs were originally brazed on by putting a thin sheet of copper or brass between the two items and bringing them up to melting temperature in the forge using borax as a flux.

You can do almost the same thing by induction welding it with a car or lawn mower battery, but you have to have it set up right.  If you put a piece of very thin copper or brass sheet stock between two pieces of metal and clamp a jumper cable to each piece you instantly create a short circuit.  Having a lower melting temp, the sheet stock will melt and fuse to the steel.  This is the same way a fuse works except it breaks the circuit.  The danger is that, if uncontrolled, the short circuit will explode the battery.

You need some resistance, like a seal beam, wired into the circuit and also a switch that will instantly activate or break the circuit.



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