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Offline Dennis Glazener

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Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« on: October 15, 2011, 02:04:13 AM »
I will let Buck tell you about this one.






















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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2011, 02:44:04 AM »
Yes indeed nice. Sell was one of my many heros of old. Thanks for the nice photos.   Smylee
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2011, 02:59:14 AM »
Beautiful rifle in exceptional condition.  Love that horsehead bird doe finial.
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 03:19:18 AM »
Jacob Sell
This just happened across my path and I couldn't pass it up. Kind of like Mr.Parkers favorite junk shop! The rifle is an overall 59.75", the barrel is exactly 43" and is 54 cal. smoothbore. I did not measure the pull but I would guess around 13-13.5". The rifle is carved in high relief at the tang, it is incised at the wrist and to the rear of the cheek rest as well as to the rear of the rear ramrod pipe. The moulding extends from the butt to the trigger guard as well as from the muzzle to the rear entry pipe. The wood has minimal curl in various places but the grain is very interesting. It is a beautiful piece of wood, the segments of grain are different tones and do not run parallel with the rifle. The patchbox is your typical Sell with the bird finial. The toe plate and the patchbox are both elaborately engraved in Sell fashion and has the typical oblong release at the rear of the upper patchbox plate. The rifle is unsigned, but has all of the characteristics of Jacob Sells work. I believe Kindig said that common characteristics of a maker are his best signature. This rifle has them all. The barrel is a deep brownish purple and I do not feel it necessary to search for a signature. Enjoy!
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2011, 03:21:28 AM »
Suzkat,
I have been looking at that finial and one moment it looks like a horse and the next it looks like a bird, maybe one of the gents can clear that one up.
Buck
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2011, 03:52:27 AM »
Could it be a doe, female deer?   Smylee
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2011, 03:59:31 AM »
Bolster on that lock has got to be much thinner than the typical locks on the market today. Can you tell us how thick it is?
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2011, 04:18:50 AM »
Thanks for posting the pictures. It was like seeing an old friend. I owned that rifle about twenty years ago. Looks exactly the same.
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2011, 05:58:02 AM »
debnal,
Thank you, I had sold a couple of rifles to a Gentleman and he happened to have this with him and it caught my eye. I looked at it and it kept talking to me, even my wife said the same thing when she came out to talk with us. I tried to walk away from it several times but, well you know. It's a great piece.

Smylee,
That's a possibility, I thought maybe even a dragon. If you look at 179 in "Thoughts" that looks like a horse. The nose on this is very thin, maybe a fox or a wolf?

Dr. Boone,
I will measure it in the morning and reply back.
Buck
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2011, 04:58:02 PM »
Dr. Boone,
The Bolster is a fuzzzzzz more than a 1/4" not quite 9/32". Thats from the barrel to the edge of the Bolster on the horizntal plane.
Buck
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2011, 06:26:46 PM »
A beautiful golden girl! Thank you very much Buck for showing it to us!
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2011, 06:52:12 PM »
Very nice rifle, thank you for sharing the pictures Buck.  There are a few other patchbox finials similar to yours out there, I think Schroyer also used them.  I always thought that they looked like a stylized doe head.  By the way, I also like the Phil Lucas rifle stand!  :)

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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2011, 07:19:58 PM »
Buck that's a very nice rifle !!   I don't know for sure what the animal is,  but I like it !!    Lp
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2011, 07:33:27 PM »
Louie,
Thank you, I will have it at Princeton in Feb. Your table will be its first stop.
Buck
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell **more photos added 10/15/11**
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2011, 09:37:40 PM »
Photos of the patchbox





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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2011, 10:15:30 PM »
Dennis,
Thanks again, I thought a close up might help. It does have similarities of a Doe as Smylee and Fullstock Longrifle proposed.
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2011, 05:47:29 PM »
Dr. Boone,
I am curious as to your thoughts in regards to my reply.
Buck
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2011, 07:12:39 PM »
Great executed patchbox. Could the animal head be a distalfink (ms) ?? Its a great "J.  Sell". AJ
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2011, 08:00:08 PM »
Quote from: buck on October 16, 2011, 05:47:29 PM
Dr. Boone,
I am curious as to your thoughts in regards to my reply.
Buck

Ok Buck, thanks, I am not sure we are measuring the same thing.. I measured the thickness of the bolster from its inside flat (that lays against the barrrel...to the inside of the lockplate......  

So on modern locks I have it varies from 9/32" to a hair over 1/8" to 1/4"  

I like the slenderness of the gun at the breech and that is hard to do id the bolster is on the thick side.....
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2011, 02:37:35 AM »
Dr. Boone,
I think I got it right. From the barrel flat to the inside of the lock plate I have 3/16".
Buck
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2011, 04:11:20 PM »
Buck that is a very nice rifle and I am glad to see you with it. I hope to make it to Princeton myself and would love to take a close look at her myself.

Congratulations on a very nice addition to your collection.
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Re: Photos of a nice Jacob Sell
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2011, 01:23:32 AM »
Bama,
Thank you, I look forward to seeing you there, hopefully the weather holds.
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