Author Topic: 1815-25 GA Farmer's smooth-bore parts gun - Bag & Horn Picture added (Read 12832 times)

Dr. Tim-Boone · « **on:** January 02, 2012, 11:53:27 PM »

Its a .62 cylinder bore, 46" Long Hammock barrel on what is conceived of as a parts gun that might have been made in middle GA of old fowling piece parts and a new English trade lock and without a buttplate or entry thimble. Styled and carved with a tip of the hat to two then very popular GA gunbuilders from nearby Indian Springs, GA and Gray, GA, Wiley G Higgins and Richard Allen. Note the carved buttplate using Higgens typical paneled design as well as the incised lines along the comb....

Made for shootin turkeys, hogs and whitetail at the close ranges of middle GA..... On his farm there was a time about 75 years ago it would have been used for scarin off revenooers too....

Hard maple blank with 5/16" RR hole stained with Ferric Nitrate, Sealed with 1 # cut of dewaxed garnet shellac and finished with true oil and Renaissance wax. Dangler's Browning solution. Hickory rr with three inch steel tapered tip and 8-32 female fitting. Internally coned touch hole thanks to Tom Snyder tool.

Those who remember an in-progress post will note that the beautiful dogwood blossom relief carving is no longer on the cheekpiece of the gun

I am interested in your reactions and suggestions to improve my future guns.

Hope you enjoy....

Dennis Glazener · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2012, 12:22:26 AM »

Tim,
Neat gun, it looks like that old GA farmer used to live in NC where he picked up the comb incised lines. Then he wandered up to the Derr Getz shop for the faux butt plate, on his way back to GA he probably stopped by the McGilvary shop in VA to pick-up that cheek rest

Guess he was a traveling man!
Dennis

Dr. Tim-Boone · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2012, 12:53:13 AM »

Can't say rural GA wasn't/ isn't cosmopolitan!

C Wallingford · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2012, 01:52:47 AM »

I like it Dr. Tim. Right down my alley. I love the incised lines a long the comb of the N.C rifles.

grouchy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2012, 01:53:09 AM »

Really nice! Thanks!

rich pierce · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2012, 02:06:21 AM »

Makes me want to stroll out in the fields with the dogs and look for some quail. I like it; unique.

Tony Clark · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2012, 02:15:34 AM »

I like it too. Real creative. Nice and clean work. Good stock blank and I like your signature.

blunderbuss · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:12:07 AM »

I worked on a fowler from Louisanna once that had a 46 " fowler barrel English proofs from the 1770's and a percussion Enfield lock the butt plate was straight and hammered out of brass I think the trigger guard was from an Enfield too. Wasn't pretty like yours though

dannybb55 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2012, 02:44:04 PM »

That is the prettiest vent liner that I have ever seen. What brand is it?

Dr. Tim-Boone · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2012, 02:50:24 PM »

Danny,
1/16" drill through the barrel and then coned inside the barrel using the little tool that Tom Snyder makes and sells.... piece of cake!!

Tim Crosby · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2012, 05:51:45 PM »

Nice job Dr. Tim. I still like the Dogwood idea, could have been added later in life.

Tim C.

Bob Roller · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:02:45 PM »

Be careful drilling into hole like a rifle bore, The drill bit can snag on that radius and then all kinds of fun occurs trying to get it out,especially if it breaks off below the outer surface of the barrel. The way I manage this is to have no more of the drill than is actually needed to get thru the wall of the barrel,wall thickness plus 1/16" will work in this case. Use a new drill bit as well,preferably one that is TiN coated.Use no more pressure than is really needed to make the bit advance into the barrel.
Good luck. One other thing,what is a Long Hammock barrel??
Bob Roller

Dr. Tim-Boone · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:22:44 PM »

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Long Hammock Barrels are from FL. .... Chambers uses them, among others, in their English and PA fowling Pieces.. I bought this barrel from Barbie.

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David R. Pennington · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:29:22 PM »

Really nice! Working on similar style "made up of parts type ". Walnut stock oct./round .62 rifled. The original the drawing was made of that I am loosely following was supposed to be from Virginia. Have Chambers round face lock almost inlet. Still debating on forging plain buttplate or none. Have iron musket triggerguard. Trade musket brass thimbles no entry thimble? This project is evolving as I go. Grease hole or slider or maybe even real plain iron box? Original drawing shows pewter nosecap? Lots of decisions to make.

hanshi · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:48:16 PM »

Now that is a very nice gun. I give it 5 stars!

WElliott · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:02:14 PM »

Nice fantasy piece, Tim. The paneled butt (from W.G. Higgins influence) is a fun touch. What happened to the dogwood idea? BTW, Richard Allen worked in Clinton Township. See you soon.
Wayne

Acer Saccharum · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:16:08 PM »

Love the concept, Tim. Make a gun to fit an epoch. LIke that a lot. It inspires me to stretch my gunbuilding imagination a bit more. Thanks, Tom

bgf · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:30:34 PM »

Dr. Tim,
I like it, so much that I wish you had gone even further with some more faux Higgins touches carved in, but I guess you went as far a the utilitarian concept would allow!

bob in the woods · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2012, 11:41:09 PM »

I like it, but- long guns always look better to me if they have the 2nd lock screw/nail . You could still add one

heinz · « **Reply #19 on:** January 04, 2012, 12:05:14 AM »

Very nice! The lock bolt plate is an interesting choice.

Bill-52 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 04, 2012, 12:44:53 AM »

Beautiful rifle, Tim. Nice lines, long and slender. I especially like the Higgins touches.

Dr. Tim-Boone · « **Reply #21 on:** January 04, 2012, 12:55:05 AM »

Quote from: bgf on January 03, 2012, 11:30:34 PM

Dr. Tim,
I like it, so much that I wish you had gone even further with some more faux Higgins touches carved in, but I guess you went as far a the utilitarian concept would allow!

Ah yes... where to draw the line...... ??

dannybb55 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 04, 2012, 01:16:47 AM »

Quote from: Bob Roller on January 03, 2012, 06:02:45 PM

Be careful drilling into hole like a rifle bore, The drill bit can snag on that radius and then all kinds of fun occurs trying to get it out,especially if it breaks off below the outer surface of the barrel. The way I manage this is to have no more of the drill than is actually needed to get thru the wall of the barrel,wall thickness plus 1/16" will work in this case. Use a new drill bit as well,preferably one that is TiN coated.Use no more pressure than is really needed to make the bit advance into the barrel.
Good luck. One other thing,what is a Long Hammock barrel??
Bob Roller

My hand cranked Champion drill press hasn't broken a bit yet as long as the work is clamped down and I use cutting fluid, I should get one continuous swarf out of the barrel...no chips. Good advice though, I have to much time in the barrel to kill it now Bob.

Dr. Tim-Boone · « **Reply #23 on:** January 04, 2012, 01:20:15 AM »

I drilled the hole and did the coning with my eggbeater hand powered drill .. I think safer is better...

smshea · « **Reply #24 on:** January 04, 2012, 02:50:50 AM »

I like that a Bunch!

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