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a sneak peek
« on: January 18, 2012, 10:45:11 PM »
I cannot wait. This a Bonewitz copy that Ron Scott is working on. The wood came from Freddie Harrison, and it has a .54 caliber Ed Ryal barrel.
This is the first one I have seen in the making. I am sure there are builders that have seen rifles in this stage.
All I can say is my hat is off to you gun makers.
 
 

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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 10:47:14 PM »
This is one photograph he is working from.


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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 12:05:27 AM »
The excitement is just going to build and build.  Ron is finishing a Moravian rifle me - in it's last stages of work.  We hope to connect in about 2 weeks.  Ron's work is absolutely first class and a rifle from him is something I have been dreaming of for at least 20 years.

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 12:40:23 AM »
Yea, I am taking a nerve pill, but it's not helping much. I try not to bother Ron much with my e-mail. I know that takes away from his time.

From what I have seen, Ron does some excellent work.

You gona post some pictures when you get your rifle ChipK?

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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 02:46:42 AM »
You two are indeed fortunate to have Ron Scott building you rifles.  If I had money, I'd have several builders busy.  I'll look forward to seeing the finished product.  So, keep us posted.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 03:37:45 AM »
Since you all are sneaky peaking your in the works new toys, this the one Andy Thomas is working on for me. I should have it in about 2 weeks too.



It is my Christmas present to me.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 04:02:55 AM »
The Ron Scott gun has 'too much wood' in the wrist and buttstock, and 'fore end too square'. That's points off, indeed.  ;D
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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 04:11:52 AM »
"Needs to see originals"   ;D

just kidding, can't wait to see the finished product.  Love Bonewitz rifles.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 04:58:22 AM »
It appears some folks, have spent too much time at Dixon's. "Needs to see more originals"  ;D  One lucky dude there.  Wish Al Martin would post a peek at the 52" barreled Lehigh he has in the works for me, with the brass lock.

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 06:03:01 AM »
You two are indeed fortunate to have Ron Scott building you rifles.  If I had money, I'd have several builders busy.  I'll look forward to seeing the finished product.  So, keep us posted.

Taylor, I need a knee replacement and a lot of money for dental work. so... I guess you can see where my priorities are.

Ronnie, one thing I like about the custom rifles is the wood to metal fit. It is starting to look good.

Bill, I am sure Allen wouldn't mind sending you a "sneak peak" photo.

Rich, the Bonewitz rifles are my favorite.

I guess I am fortunate. I wanted a Bonewitz first, then an early wood patchbox that Jim Kibler built. The third rifle I wanted was a later rifle with an A type patch box head like the one in the below photo.


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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 06:10:22 AM »
The Ron Scott gun has 'too much wood' in the wrist and buttstock, and 'fore end too square'. That's points off, indeed.  ;D

Acer, I do not have a clue what Ron will do with this extra wood and squareness. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 06:42:14 AM »
You two are indeed fortunate to have Ron Scott building you rifles.  If I had money, I'd have several builders busy.  I'll look forward to seeing the finished product.  So, keep us posted.

Taylor, I need a knee replacement and a lot of money for dental work. so... I guess you can see where my priorities are.

Ronnie, one thing I like about the custom rifles is the wood to metal fit. It is starting to look good.

Bill, I am sure Allen wouldn't mind sending you a "sneak peak" photo.

Rich, the Bonewitz rifles are my favorite.

I guess I am fortunate. I wanted a Bonewitz first, then an early wood patchbox that Jim Kibler built. The third rifle I wanted was a later rifle with an A type patch box head like the one in the below photo.



Flinter where did you get a picture of my rifle?

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 02:26:43 PM »
Your rifle!!!

Man, what a treasure you have.

This rifle is pictured in the thread, "Which period longrifle maker was the best engraver/why?" on the ALR board and posted by Jim Kibler.

This 'A type"  head patch box design is probably my favorite. I have been considering starting a thread on this patch box. This was used by several gunsmiths in different counties or areas.

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 10:17:38 PM »
Flinter, I agree that that is one of the best patchboxes from antiquity.  I shamelessly used it on a little .40 cal rifle back in the early 80's.

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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 12:57:25 AM »
Taylor, I would love to show a "sneak peek" of a flintlock in progress with this type patch box. I do not think... well... I cannot see any shame in the rifle you posted.   

Thanks for posting the photo. Now, I am going to set back for a while and look at it.

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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2012, 09:34:56 PM »
update

Ron Scott quote.

"I have the  rifle stock about 90% shaped.  The last 10% goes a bit slower, in getting the contours just right."

"This is the trigger I made up for your rifle.  Keep in mind the plate has not been finished shaped.  The trigger itself was the bigger task.  The shape is unique and no one offers casting."




 

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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2012, 10:14:39 PM »
Ron's done a nice job on the trigger.  But if it were mine, I'd about double the blade above the plate.  I like to pivot them right at the screw pivot hole, for lots of mechanical advantage, and a nice crisp trigger pull.
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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2012, 10:18:13 PM »
I agree with Taylor, when it comes to triggers, 'hang 'em high'!
Sorry, couldn't resist.

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« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2012, 10:40:09 PM »
I have no idea of what you guys are talking about. I have confidence in Ron's work.

Taylor, what would, "I'd about double the blade above the plate." accomplish? Would this make the trigger pull lighter, say from 8# to 4#.

You guys are the gunsmiths: not me.

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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2012, 11:27:38 PM »
Ron absolutely knows what he's doing. 
The discussion regarding trigger functioning refers to an earlier thread on this board about trigger geometry and how it affects pull - generally, if the trigger is pinned high, on the same plane as the sear pivot screw, the felt pull is lessened, all else being equal.

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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2012, 11:52:00 AM »
Boy, you guys make me nervious sometimes. I asked Ron if he could make the trigger to have a clean smooth pull of about 4 pounds?

He said, "I think that we can achieve your goal on the trigger pull.  I installed the trigger with a high pivot. That the excellent lock assembly by Walter Cain should make that pretty easy."

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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2012, 08:16:42 PM »
update

Ron sent me a few photos today, and I thought I would post them. This is interesting to me, because I have never seen a flintlock in the making.




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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2012, 12:15:03 AM »
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Taylor, I need a knee replacement and a lot of money for dental work. so... I guess you can see where my priorities are.


Flinter you can do with out the teeth if you grind up your venison enough. But how ya gonna hunt with one leg. Get your knee fixed

Im 5 and half weeks into recovery from a total hip replacement and now really looking forward to this deer season. last season was totally ruined by PAIN and not being able to wals very far.

By the way awesome looking rifle!!

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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2012, 02:46:49 AM »
doulos, my first cousin had one tooth, and he could eat ginger snap cookies like a normal person. Actually, the comment about myself was meant to be humorous. My doctor said I needed to get as much use out of my knee as I could. I am at the age where, if I get a replacement, I would need another about the age of 70 to 75. The way my surgeon talked that would be a bad time because of age. Anyway...

Ron said the wood looked super. I asked him to pick a highly figured wood with irregular striping. That goes along with my personality.  ;D

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Re: a sneak peek
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2012, 05:12:52 AM »
It's going to be a beauty for certain.
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