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Offline Longknife

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ID bayonette?
« on: February 12, 2012, 07:43:43 PM »
I am trying to ID this bayonette. It is made for a top mounted stud and the inside of the socket measures only .880 to .800. It has an "I C" ( with a dot between the letters?) mark on the blade and a "D" on the socket. Other measurements are shown...THANKS...Ed

 




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Re: ID bayonette?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 08:34:12 PM »
I am away from my references (at work) but you appear to have a US M1795 bayonet in reasonably nice condition, they are hard to find. The bridge over the slot tells us it one of the later versions made for the M1795, it added strength to the socket.
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Re: ID bayonette?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2012, 06:48:45 AM »
Could be that but I'm thinking US Model 1816 musket.
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Re: ID bayonette?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2012, 04:59:02 PM »
The short and narrow flute at the tip is pretty much a signature of the M1795 makers as is the narrow bridge. By the time of the M1816 the flute ran from the tip almost all of the way to the heel of the blade and the bayonets were overall of a higher quality. The M1795 bayonets do vary quite a bit in quality of work and slot type as well as being made with and without the bridge.
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Re: ID bayonette?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 05:07:26 PM »
Nate, you can see several types of M1795 as well a the standard 1816 here:

http://jjmilitaryantiques.com/catpage.asp?CategoryType=sockbayous

You'll need to scroll down the page, the variations on the early (pre-1816) bayonets is considerable.
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Re: ID bayonette?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2012, 06:44:19 PM »
TPH, Thanks for the info....Ed
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Re: ID bayonette?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 07:28:20 AM »
Me too.
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Re: ID bayonette?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 07:13:45 PM »
TP, would the I C be the maker and the D be the inspector and can thes people be ID'd??? Thanks again....Ed
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 06:55:13 PM »
Ed, as always, I am away from my "sources" (being at work is a pain, isn't it?) but I believe that the "IC" is the maker. I will try to remember to look tonight and let you know. If I forget send me a PM. I will say that "U.S. Military Flintlock Muskets, and Their Bayonets, the Early Years, 1790-1815" by Peter A. Schmidt is a good place to start. He has much information that previous researchers missed or ignored.
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