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RB moulds
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:42:30 AM »
Who cuts precise custom RB moulds?   I have had "factory" RB moulds and been less than impressed with them.
  I have just recieved an really incredible custom damascus .40 pistol barrel I ordered from Hugh Toenges for an upcoming personal project.  He uses .025 deep rifling and recommends a .375 ball and extra thick .030 and gets some 1 hole 25 yard groups with that combo patching.

 I also have a 50 round groove Rice and a more ore less standard 54 Colrain and want to get good quality moulds for them.

Offline mark esterly

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 02:06:19 AM »
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The other DWS

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 02:27:57 AM »
Am I correct in assuming that the idea of using the undersized ball and thick patch is that the ball is less likely to be distorted or damaged in its trips up and down the bore as opposed to a larger ball and a thinner patch?

Dogshirt

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 03:29:28 AM »
I use a bigger ball (.535) plus a thicker (.018) patch. I'd use .020 if I could find it locally.

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 04:56:19 AM »
In a .54 I assume.  That'd be a real job to ram down a 40 or 50  :o

Dave Faletti

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 06:08:00 AM »
NEI Handtools.  I like the ones I bought awhile back.  They have a number of sizes.  If you want to pay for the tooling you can get any size they don't currently offer.

Dogshirt

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 06:25:26 AM »
In a .54 I assume.  That'd be a real job to ram down a 40 or 50  :o

You just have to modify for caliber. I shoot .495 in my 50, with same patch.

Daryl

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 06:10:38 PM »

Rice barrels in .50, shoot very nicely with a .495" ball (normal .005" under) and a .020" to .022" patch. 

Just to show what a good crown allows, we loaded a .508" ball in Taylor's Virginia rifle, Rice barrel, with a .019" denim patch, then pulled the ball with the patch strips 'wing's' and the integrity of the patch material was unharmed by the lands.

The balls must be pure lead. WW is not pure lead.

While that works with a good crown and .016" deep or shallower rifling, doesn't work well with .030" rifling. Usually one must try this themselves to understand what's happening.

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2012, 07:32:39 PM »
I'm quite sure Hugh knows what he's talking about.  Perhaps the bore on his barrel mikes .385 or so, but he calls it a nominal .40 (like a .357 bullet in a '.38').

Daryl

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 04:11:32 AM »
Ask he, he'll to tell you exactly what the bore is as well as the groove depth. 

Many here do not believe that exceptionally deep rifling is necessary, but Hugh seems to get good results using a machine rest and telesopic sight.

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2012, 11:53:31 PM »
" A godly man and his rifle deprive sleep from the wicked, A christian man who prays is the defeater of evil, A praying man who will fight is the conqueror of nations and the hope of the oppressed "

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Re: RB moulds
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2012, 09:59:38 PM »
Kal tool& die,Manitoba. Any size you want with sprue cutter.
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