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Offline hortonstn

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GERMAN SILVER
« on: February 26, 2012, 12:14:56 AM »
can i heat and bend a german silver trigger guard without breaking it like i do brass??
thanks paul

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Re: GERMAN SILVER
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 01:00:23 AM »
Paul,
If I remember correctly, brass is the opposite of iron based alloys,  with iron you heat and then quench to harden.  If you heat and let aircool it anneals or softens the iron and allows you to bend, drill, file, etc.
  With brass is an alloy that can have a number of different mixtures and characteristics.  If believe that in general you heat and quench to anneal.  Reloaders often heat and then quench the mouths of cartridge cases to prevent work-hardening from reloading causing cast mouth splitting.
  I believe that so-called "German Silver" is a complex nickel-brass alloy that has a number of varieties, some of which can be a bit brittle.  I think that is I was trying to rework cast "German Silver"  I'd do like you are doing----ask.
   If I failed to get informed responses and had to proceed anyway I'd probably heat and quench it, like brass, rather than heat and let aircool.

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Re: GERMAN SILVER
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 01:46:52 AM »
Quenching brass does not make it any softer, it merely cools it quicker.  People annealing brass often get impatient, especially when doing large quantities of brass cartridges.

I suppose you can anneal german silver, but the temperature will be much lower than brass.  If you heat cast GS past a certain point, it will pop and fizzle like a cheap welding rod and you'll end up with slag holes.  This point is before it reaches red heat.
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Re: GERMAN SILVER
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 03:10:17 AM »
can i heat and bend a german silver trigger guard without breaking it like i do brass??
thanks paul

If you are breaking brass it may be BRONZE some castings are. A good brass casting is very malleable. Annealing needs to be done pretty often if extensive reworking is being done.
I suspect the German (nickel) Silver will anneal as well. But it does contain nickel.
I have not used any in 10 years and then only as a couple of inlays on a percussion gun.

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Re: GERMAN SILVER
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 03:31:04 AM »
The annealing temperature for German silver is between 1100 and 1400 F.

http://www.copperinfo.co.uk/alloys/brass/downloads/pub-71-the-nickel-silvers.pdf