I agree, Swampwalker - Taylor's Kuntz .40 is a lovely offhand rifle, no recoil, no crack in the cheek - superb even when shooting offhand,, however try shooting a chunk match with it where you're laying prone. That postition changes the head's attitude and angle along with the recoil properties. Every shot fired punched the cheek bone mercilessly like being hit in the cheek bone with a hammer handle - CRACK! - every shot was another CRACK! Not something to look foreward to. CRACK! By the end of the match - 15 shots, his cheek was blue/black. So - type of shooting is imporant. I cannot imagine using my favourite off-hand rifle, that 14 bore noted above, in a chunk match, either. HA!