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Offline TMerkley

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showing of first rifles
« on: April 30, 2012, 04:14:11 PM »
Has anyone posted pictures of their first rifles to get advice?

Have debated this for months, but sometimes fear the rath.  :-\

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 04:32:17 PM »
Sadly, I don't have my first longrifle. (sigh of relief)

I don't think there would be any aftermath of posting such guns. It would be entertaining probably, kind of like posting your baby pictures.

This is my first gun, parts from Dixie Gun Works. I wore out the catalog from cover to cover, trying to to figure out what I needed to make a gun. Styling came for one of the little 3" grainy photos, stock design came off a Win lever action 30-30.

Fat and clunky, it was a great project and so much fun. Probably kept me toeing the line between a life of crime and chasing girls.

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 04:48:52 PM »
Rifle looks great!  I take it, it has been a few years.

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 04:59:09 PM »
1978, my first flintlock from a blank.  I was mostly working from Kindig's Thoughts on the Kentucky Rifle in its Golden Age.  Had no idea about architecture and especially about carving, but did not let that slow me down a bit.  Still a great performing rifle.  Have thought about restocking it but can barely find time to build the new guns I want to build.  GRRW .45 caliber, 42" tapered barrel, 15/16 to 13/16".  L&R Durs Egg lock built from a kit.    Wood by Freedie Harrison.  Buttplate and guard picked up at Dixon's.  Made the rest of the parts.













Carving looks like spaghetti thrown against the stock.  Lock panels all wrong.  Fore-end way too thick.  All easy too see now, but I didn't have eyes back then, lol.
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 05:12:03 PM »
I did, I showed pics throughout the whole process.  I plan to do the same with my upcoming second build.  Since noone around me builds it is the only way to get advice.  If you consider advice rath, than dont.  But remember they mean it as advice.

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 05:23:54 PM »
Comon Merk.. Les see the rifle....  I hid my first way back in the attic......
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 06:06:55 PM »
Merk: yes, a few years. That was 17, so add another 42. Still love them groundhogs.
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 05:03:25 AM »
I have my first rifle still. Its very accurate and I have done well in several matches with it. It is the ugliest rifle alive.
I have toyed with the Idea of restocking it as it should have been years ago but I was told that your very first rifle needs to be left as a reminder of how far you have come. The barrel is a 15/16 x 36"  .50 cal  Bauska barrel, Lock is a Siler.  L&R triggers.  The original trigger was of the single pined style and a Berks Co trigger guard. The guy that sold me the parts told me I was building a Hawken rifle.




I took off the first trigger guard and trigger replacing with what you see now. I took off about a 1/4" of wood from under the fore stock back through the wrist to lighten it up a bit. The cheek piece is a monster and I could safely take another couple ounces off the gun stock.
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 06:07:48 AM »
I am working on it,  I have to borrow it back first.  I have some pictures but will have to put it in photo bucket. It will probably be later this week. 

Yes, I do have one.  I gave it to my friend who saved my life in a fight at work several years ago.  (Drunks don't like going back to jail!)

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 04:42:35 PM »
I don't know if I osted it here before. L&R Durrs Egg, Rayl 3/4" .32 cal. This is a rescue. I made mistakes in the originally planned rifle and then went a different direction for recovery (of sorts).


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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 04:46:53 PM »
...... I was told that your very first rifle needs to be left as a reminder of how far you have come.

Ain't that the truth...
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 07:33:05 PM »


It's not a long rifle, but it's my first muzzle loading gun.  I built it when I was 14, that's 1962, and still have it.  My source was a postage stamp sized picture of a duelling pistol in a library book.  the barrel is a piece of hexagonal shafting from a machine breakdown at Silverwood's Dairy in London, Ontario, supplied by my Uncle Harry.  I filed flats along the side so that I could inlet it into the wood.  I bored  and reamed it .50 cal smooth on the lathe at the machine shop in St. Joseph's Hospital where my dad worked.  I bought the walnut at a hardwood supplier - $3.95 enough for two stocks.  The lock, and all the metal parts are scratch built with saw and file.  My dad showed me how to sharpen tools and make springs.
It weighs a ton and is a POS, but it's priceless to me.  We all start somewhere, with more or less information.  I was grateful to have a long suffering and patient teacher in my father, who knew even less than I about guns.
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 08:55:13 PM »
POS my rear-end!!! :o

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 09:28:45 PM »
 Kewel Taylor! 8)
 Soon you can put #'s 1 and #100 together! Now that would be a great thread, your first gun,then your latest! JFYI, I get #99! Sorry hockey fans :P,Gretzki is taken! I'm naming it "The Great One"!  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2012, 11:23:55 PM »


...I was grateful to have a long suffering and patient teacher in my father, who knew even less than I about guns....

Yeah... I mean, you couldn't even figure out which side the lock was supposed to go on!  :P

Seriously... for a scratch-made first gun, that is pretty dang awesome. And you made the lock too! Holy gamoly... you were obviously born with a gift. No wonder your recent work is as perfect as it is... amazing!

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2012, 03:36:59 AM »
You guys are way too kind.  Perhaps its just a flattering camera.  But I thank you just the same.

I made it cakhanded because that's what I am.  Never having done one before, I don't think it made any difference.

It's a coincidence that #1 and # 100 are both pistols!
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2012, 11:20:39 AM »
I don't know why you guys are apologizing.  I have not only made worse, I've bought worse! My one building project, one of those kit guns in a styrofoam box, had to be the ugliest rifle ever, and that was with most of the work already done.  Just bought an old gun to refinish, a little practice before another project this summer.  I can only hope I will eventually reach the level where the rest of you started :).

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2012, 09:24:57 PM »
Hi Guys!
My first handbuild gun was also a pistol, made it in 1969 in the workshop at junior high school. The teacher ( Rissespissen) was skeptical but agree at last hehe ;)
The barrel is bored 10mm and is aroand 5-3/4" long a pocket pistol. See lockplate, plenty holes plugged before I get the parts to funksjon. It is ugly, but for me sentimental value :)
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2012, 10:01:58 PM »
Wow, Runar, that is great! It looks like it takes a modern rifle primer...very advanced technology.

Your "I can make whatever I dream about" is in such evidence in this gun. Very cool.
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 07:02:31 AM »
Runar,
I also made  muzzleloaders in the woodwork shop of Huntington High School and they were no better than your pistol. My last project was a double barreled rifle that I never finished.
Today,in America if a school boy asked to make a gun in shop class,the system would be in panic,long and loud moaning and groaning would prevail and the boy would be sent to a psychiatrist to see what was wrong with him.
The son of a friend wanted to make a ceramic figure of a duck hunter for his father and was told NOT to show the shotgun which was part of his drawn design. What a sorry bunch we have allowed to indoctrinate our children and grand children here in America.

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 11:59:11 PM »
My first rifle no longer exists!   :D  A "Tennessee" rifle with a Pecatonica stock.

My second rifle no longer exists either!  I do have photos, though, somewhere...
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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2012, 05:12:41 AM »
What I have learned this past year or three makes me keep looking at my fusil (TOW kit) and my rifle (Kennedy parts)  won't mention the two pistols (Spanish kits) and want to pull out a rasp and scraper.  The carving on my rifle makes me shudder its so thick. At least I have overcome the part about starting. Now keep going and get better. I must say that I am impressed that where I started with a kit from TOW some of you started with a block of wood and made all of the parts from scratch to start with.

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 05:46:05 AM »
My first ML rifle.



I didn't post it during the build..... Al Gore hadn't invented the Internet yet.  But I did post it here, years later.  The lock panels are a little wide and the stock is slowing gaining a green tinge, but I still love her.  She kills deer dead.

I also posted pictures in progress of build # 2 and 3 and will post future builds when I get in a jam.... and no doubt I will.

Don't be bashful, TM, post your work and ask for critique...  your building skills will improve.

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Re: showing of first rifles
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2012, 06:50:50 AM »
In 1969, I was a high school junior and I wanted a long rifle although I had never actually seen one…only fuzzy black and white, 2 inch wide pictures of one, printed on news print paper, in the Dixie Gun Works catalog I had just received in the mail.  I could just afford a Dixie barrel, a sand cast butt plate, and a sand cast trigger guard.  I ordered the parts and had an eye on a walnut tree felled by a neighbor.  The tree had been down for a couple of years and was intended for firewood.  I told the neighbor that I would cut up the tree for him if I could have enough of the wood to make a gunstock.  He said sure and I sawed out a plank about 10 inches wide, more than 2 inches thick, and 5 feet long.  I made the lock for this gun by carving all the parts out of wax and getting a local casting house to cast the parts in steel for me.  It took several weeks to get the lock parts fitted, springs made, and everything hardened.  The rest of the parts were made from scrap brass.  The rifle has nothing going for it except that it shoots well.  However, to my credit, it looks just like the only two inch black and white picture of a long rifle I had ever seen….however bad it was.





A year later, I bought two Douglass barrels, made two more, better designed, locks by the same wax / casting method and completed the following matched pair of rifles for my Dad and I.  The design is better but still very poor and the fabrication poorly executed.   However, both these rifles still shoot well and are pleasing for me to look at every once in a while if for no other reason than to just to measure progress since I was 17. 













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