Thanks gents for your input.Keep 'im coming. It's for a smallbore,a forty. My charge is 70gr.of Goex 2f and our local trailwalk has 60 stations.Sometimes we shoot multiples at any one given station so a little better then 1 pound will be needed. I've got a couple of smaller horns that are OK for competition as they hold under a pound but for our home trail I need to bring two of them. Timbuck II, one day I'd like one of yours! Thanks again gents,LB.