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Offline yip

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best way to bore a grease hole
« on: July 30, 2012, 03:03:53 AM »
hello; just looking for the best way to bore a grease hole, do i drill or carve it out ? just wondering..........yip

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 03:12:55 AM »
I'd drill it in a press with a Forstner bit.
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 04:43:30 AM »
 it would be the easiest way, but just looking for correct way with out chipping. the forrester bit sounds great, what size?
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 04:57:51 AM »
There's no right size but I would  say at least 7/8" and probably a little bigger.

Look and some pictures and go with what looks right in proportion to your stock.

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 05:45:29 AM »
 You might also consider a spur bit.
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 07:16:24 PM »
Some of them are slanted toward the butt too...  Also some were rectangular... your choice
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 08:39:12 PM »
Are grease holes normally flat bottomed or are they rounded?  Maybe start with a fostner bit and switch to a router bit once the sidewall was established? 

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 08:46:25 PM »
There is also a 'spoon bit' which is an old-fashioned bit driven by a brace, leaves a round bottom hole. Google image it.

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 08:48:30 PM »
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 05:13:01 PM »
I have a hankering to try a spoon bit and brace on my current TN bunny gun.  If I mess it up the gun will get a Bean style cover!  Mistake?  What mistake?




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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 08:00:40 PM »
One old iron mounted rifle I had long ago had a grease hole about 1 inch in diameter, with a round bottom hole. I always assumed it must have been cut with a spoon bit. That would have been a quick and easy way to make a grease hole!

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 10:03:14 PM »
Make a starter depression with a gouge, then the spoon bit will track.

I just saw it on PBS cabinet making show.
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2012, 10:18:46 PM »
Could someone post some pictures of the grease hole styles? I am especially interested in the style that leans toward the rear of the rifle. I have never seen that particular style. Thanks.

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2012, 11:02:33 PM »
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Could someone post some pictures of the grease hole styles? I am especially interested in the style that leans toward the rear of the rifle. I have never seen that particular style. Thanks.

Take a look here, the Gillespie's used the oval/slanted hole as well as a rectangular grease "trough" on their early rifles. This article has photos of both:
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=14254.0
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2012, 04:26:01 AM »
Thank you nord for that link with the photo. Pretty interesting information.
I really like the slanted grease hole. I  like the slim profile of the iron mounted "Poor Boy" styled rifles.

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2012, 04:51:56 PM »
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Thank you nord for that link with the photo. Pretty interesting information.
I really like the slanted grease hole. I  like the slim profile of the iron mounted "Poor Boy" styled rifles.
I guess you meant to thank me, not Nord, I posted the link to the article that's in the Virtual Library. You are welcome.
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2012, 06:47:25 PM »
Are grease holes normally flat bottomed or are they rounded?  Maybe start with a fostner bit and switch to a router bit once the sidewall was established? 

I like this idea - and I would undercut the outer rim using the dremel - so the gease would stay put, even though it might dry a bit. I'd finish (stock finish/seal) the sides and bottom of the hole so the wood would not absorb the oil from the grease.

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2012, 09:04:29 PM »
Thank you Dennis Glazener  for the photos and Email picture of an oval grease hole. It really has an appeal to me and hopefully will try this some time in the future. Thanks again

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2012, 09:16:55 PM »
What's the best way to bore a grease hole?

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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2012, 09:45:46 PM »
Tom, that would even bore an anvil.

But seriously, I like hogging it out with a big gouge (for patch boxes). I have never done a grease hole. I really cannot see the point of some grease that has been collecting grit and dirt being used to lube a patch
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2012, 10:01:05 PM »
Put lip balm in it, then.  ;D

I think you'd want to change out the lube every time you went hunting. How gritty does a buttstock get during a day's hunt? Probably not too dirty, unless you're spelunking for groundhogs.

An anvil is awful hard to bore.
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2012, 10:36:51 PM »
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Talk Euclidean geometry for four hours straight,
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2012, 10:40:48 PM »
The mind is a mysterious thing. We are connected, all in different ways, to the larger world. Define the larger world, please, someone.

Oh, sorry, I drifted off topic.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2012, 01:20:01 AM »
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Re: best way to bore a grease hole
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2012, 02:08:48 AM »
  Dennis; the pictures are interesting, the work maybe a little nerve wrecking, but i'll give er a try. got to try in find a spoon bit.