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Offline Roger Fisher

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Grease for long time storage???
« on: August 04, 2012, 01:08:53 AM »
If I putting this in the wrong cat. feel free to move it...      Long time storage.- I have found that good ol Rig grease in the bore seems to last better than anything else I have used.   How about you???    I've been checking many in past week .  Found 2 with some degree of 'colour'   I had vaseline in a couple for quite a few years.. Kinda dried up...

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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2012, 01:23:47 AM »
Me too,   RIG is the best thing I've used.  About the longest I'll let one set up is two years,  but some have "escaped" for longer and I've never found any rust in one's treated with RIG. 

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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 02:59:19 AM »
Not sure how long your speaking of, but over winter months I have been getting excellent results from birch wood Casey barricade. I use it when I clean and never look again. I really like it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 03:21:02 AM »
I think RIG is off the market now. 

I have a tube of marine grease for use on cables and such, 2-4-C I believe it is called.  The tube has been standing open end down on a shelf in the smoke house for several years now and has not seperated or run out or look other wise degraded.  I'll bet it would be good stuff to preserve a barrel.

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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2012, 03:32:23 AM »
Not sure how long your speaking of, but over winter months I have been getting excellent results from birch wood Casey barricade. I use it when I clean and never look again. I really like it.
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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2012, 04:09:35 AM »
I think RIG is off the market now. 

I have been using RIG for decades and have never come across a better product.  My supply is running low, so went on a hunt for more.  Haven't ordered it yet, but found it at Brownell's.

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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2012, 04:18:40 AM »
I see it after looking from several sources, but the packaging is different than the five cans I have.  Must have changed ownership...?  My stuff was a brownish can with "Silencio" as the producer.  Looks like what is now produced is by Birchwood Casey.

I think it was around 2008 there was talk of it going out of production, so I bought up what I could find of it.  At just under $5 a can, I couldn't hurt myself too bad.  I have six cans, one is open, the rest in reserve.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2012, 05:39:12 PM »
Back to storage protection requirements being related to weather conditions, ie: humidity where you are storing your guns.

Here in BC, spraying with WD 40 after cleaning and drying, is all that is needed -  for at least up to 20 years storage - stored muzzle down for the ML's and butt down for the modern stuff.

Thus, if the Ml's or other guns are stored in a climate controlled safe, about any sort of oil after cleaning will work.  If they are stored where there is gross temperature fluctuations or high humidity, you need a more aggressive rust preventer than WD40 or Hoppe's #9(not plus), Outers solvent or whatever.

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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2012, 06:02:37 PM »
LPS 3 is as good as I have seen.  Available thru WW Grainger for one.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2012, 06:16:26 PM »
I think RIG is off the market now. 

Rig is still available. Amazon can have some on your door step the day after tomorrow.

For very long term storage I might consider Cosmoline. I always hated cleaning that stuff off of military surplus back when I dabbled in that sort of thing, but as a rust preventative for long term storage, I'd say that it has a proven track record.

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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2012, 07:01:58 PM »
I use RIG to lube my patches when I'm hunting.

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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2012, 01:59:41 PM »
I store all my guns in specially treated gun socks made by Bore Stores.  Never had a problem.  With regard to oil I use Rem-Oil on everything.

http://www.borestores.com/

I always check eBay to see if they have the sock I'm looking for.  Great product just a little expensive on their shipping costs.  Cabelas also stocks the popular sizes, so does Midway under the Midway name, made by Bore Stores.
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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2012, 04:37:37 PM »
 I use Super Lube by Permatex in places where I feel grease is needed. It is a great lube that is actually food grade, it is unlikely to do damage to wood over time. Break Free chain and cable foam is good for not evaporating. WD-40 is worthless for long term storage. It evaporates and doesn't leave enough of a film to prevent rust.

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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2012, 05:27:43 PM »
roger
vaseline and cosmoline are the same chemical formula . i don't think you could find much better than cosmoline so maybe apply the vaseline heavier.

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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2012, 05:34:07 PM »
Anyone ever try VCI (vapor corrosion inhibitor) paper or bags. I have been using these for years for long term storage and have found them to be excellent. Google VCI paper or bags. Many companies selling them. The paper is like the stuff you used to fine in a Smith and Wesson box around a revolver.

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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2012, 06:59:28 PM »
I use Super Lube by Permatex in places where I feel grease is needed. It is a great lube that is actually food grade, it is unlikely to do damage to wood over time. Break Free chain and cable foam is good for not evaporating. WD-40 is worthless for long term storage. It evaporates and doesn't leave enough of a film to prevent rust.   Hungry Horse

Your ipinion is only accurate in high humidity areas - otherwise it is incorrect. Here's a fact not opinion. I have rifles and shotguns that were lubed with WD40 for over 20 years, yet not one of them rusted.

Please read my first post concerning local humidity druing storage - that is where the difference lies.  It is good to have such strong convictions, but one must qualify them, if they are not 'all encompasing', such as "in my area, WD 40 is worthless for long term storage, etc, etc." I should note that Harry stored his guns on the coast of BC, after only lubing them with WD 40 and they did not rust, either. Perhaps the qualifier is that if the gun is actually cleaned of all fouling and dried well, WD40 works about as well as anything.

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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 02:36:44 AM »
I use VCI paper in the gun safes.  Sort of hard to really determine how effective they are.   They did leave a weird, apparently permanent corrosion like residue on a S&W .22 pistol that they were in direct contact with and they do draw a lot of moisture.  When humidity is high, they are "in case" (limp) like a tobacco leaf ready to be stripped.

I believe the pistol frame affected was aluminum with a blued finish.

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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2012, 01:11:53 AM »
When I was a teen I used what I had, or what Dad had, rather.  About all that was was Hoppe's #9 and a can of WD-40 left somewhere in the house.  I found that both did a decent job of cleaning my .22 rifle and kept it from rusting.  Of course that was before I knew about all the other products that were supposed to work better.

I recently received a jar of RIG from TOW and have been trying it in my Tennessee style rifle.  So far it works great as a rust preventative but I can't say how it works for long term storage, I imagine at least as good as a good oil providing the barrel has been properly cleaned of BP residue.  Oddly, I use WD-40 to clean the rig out before shooting- works great for that too.


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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2012, 08:23:33 PM »
 I'll stay with my B.C. Barricade, it's been over a month since I last went shooting. I checked just the other day and its as clean as when I put it up. It's been to hot and humid lately to get out an shoot. But I have until Nov. 12 to get her all dialed in and ready to put some venison in the freezer.

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2012, 08:39:44 PM »
I have a flint 20 bore that I haven't fired since before Hefley Creek, ie: our field trap shoot, whenever that was last year. It was cleaned, dried and doused with WD40 - then patched out and the excess wiped off.  It is still without any rust of any sort and none is expected - ever- such is the way it is here.  There is no need for special grease or oil for storage in this part of the country.   I'm told our average humidity is around 50%, yet it will run from 25% to 100% throughout the year and had since that gun was last fired.  I assume the average inside the house is lower than the average outside humidity, especially in the 'lockup'.  50% humidity will dry wood in storage to settle at 9%, perfect for making self bows.

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Re: Grease for long time storage???
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2012, 01:57:39 AM »
The relative humidity in my shop dries wood to 7 1/2% - consistently.  We have some very hot and humid weather in the summer - all the snow melts.  Ha!!  Yet in spite of the high RH, the basement shop stays constant.  WD 40 works perfectly.
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2012, 12:39:04 PM »
To keep this in perspective, long term storage to Roger is Monday thru Thursday.    ;D