Thanks all just trying out new things other then the normal stuff.. Tim these were turn from solid tips, like I said you can straighten the tips ..but the amount of work that goes into it is not worth it you have to make cones to fit each tip.. heat and reheat the horn so much that sometime it splits or just becomes way to brittle i think I get one good one out of every three I try so just easier to find good solid tips ... this week now that kids are back in school just working on bags and a couple horns and some more suprises..
Ed
