Lock maker question/questions

[Roger Fisher]

You older builders out there--- A lock with touchmark on inside surface of plate described as follows:  quarter inch diameter circle with slash from 10 O'clock to 4 O'clock and left half of a swastika.      I'm of the opinion this lock is a Haddaway...  although not needed anyone out there have any such parts ?

2nd question:  Siler lock (32) stamped inside -plate pete allen..  are these gut parts interchangeable with contemporary Siler innards?

3rd question:  I have in hand a 'started' long rifle project that the 'builder' gave up on abt 30 yrs ago.  He used a blind hole in the plate for front and rear lock nails. (both being 8/32) .  Would you leave those blind holes and screw around to get proper length while using a side plate or drill on thru and go to 10/32 front and back?

4th question: He used staples; but drilled stock for pins   I'm considering cutting the staples (and their 1/2 opening length) and setting in lugs so pins can be used.
What say you good ol boys?

5th question (and I promise the last for now)  -  Ignoring what the judges at Dixons like - How proud should the siler flint plate stand?  Half way?


Next question have in my possession a 42" 7/8 straight 50 cal 7 groove barrel with no maker's name or any ID except  7  8 and 5  8 stamped on underside of the tang
been around these parts for over 30 years checked the bore and only slight 'colour'  no problem.  Read me curious if any one has a clue of a maker that did not identify their barrels.  ?  That's a tough question probably!   If she were yours would you cut her back from  her 42" length for fear of runout?

[Nate McKenzie]

For #4, look at the Berks Co. I have in the antique section.  It has staples and pins. I have seen several other originals built that way. Plenty of room for expansion.

[Jim Chambers]

I believe you are correct about the lock being a Haddaway, and no, there are no replacement parts available unless you just luck up on someone that has something in their shop.
Comtemporary Siler parts will interchange with those made years ago.

[Roger Fisher]

For #4, look at the Berks Co. I have in the antique section.  It has staples and pins. I have seen several other originals built that way. Plenty of room for expansion.

Well Nate that answers that question.  Room for expansion for certain.  Apparently not too much.    Thanks.

[kutter]

#2..I'm told the older Siler & the newer Siler use the same internals.

#3.. If the blind holes in the lock plate are already tapped and everything lines up nicely with an already installed side plate,,I'd probably use the 8/32 side plate screws and fit them to the blind holes..IF..the depth of thread is sufficient to secure the lock in position.
You don't want the threads to strip out after a few tightening sessions of taking the lock off and re-installing.
The blind holes are a nice cosmetic touch,,but not at the expense of real world use.
I use 10-32 for side lock screws many times too.

#4...I don't really care for the staples,,but again if everything is installed and lined up already, why create more work. The length of the slot has nothing to do with anything. The stock or bbl isn't going to slide around. They're secured together at the breech.
I'd  sweat solder the posts of the staples into they're staked holes as extra precaution,,but that's just me.
If I used them myself,,I'd add that extra step,,but I don't use them.
A bit of flux, bring up the heat and touch the soft solder wire to the joint and it'll flow right into it cleanly.

[C Wallingford]

Roger--
Did you get my PM?

[Roger Fisher]

Roger--
Did you get my PM?

Yes I did and thank you.    No Haddaway parts needed 'yet'  was only curious if there were any around.

[T*O*F]

No Haddaway parts needed 'yet'  was only curious if there were any around

If there are, I need a sear for one.

[Don Getz]

Roger......staples have been my "staple" for many years.   Starting with my first gun I have used staples and finishing
nails for my underlugs.   The staple automatically gives the room for wood expansion.  The best staples are the ones
Pete Allan used to make, they are cast with a small foot on the bottom of each leg.  Once you have them staked into holes in the barrel, the only way you can remove them is to break them.............Don

[LynnC]

Roger,

Just my best guess , the 7 8 and 5 8 under the tang means a 5/8 thread plug for a 7/8 flats barrel.  Who made it?  check the "How many grooves" thread running in BP Shooting for some ideas.  Would I cut it back?   Prolly not but thats just my personal likes    Oughta hang pretty good as is.  At least i wouldn't cut it back just yet.

Keep truckin Roger!  Your an inspiration..............Lynn