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My flintlock elk!
« on: October 09, 2012, 03:52:05 PM »
Last Monday in Wyoming! He came in to a cow elk call. I pulled the trigger at 40 yards. I was shooting a traditional flintlock pushing a round ball cast from wheel weight lead. He doesn't have a monster rack but I'm thrilled.  ;D


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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 04:04:59 PM »
My congrats.  Looks like a fine bull and going to be very tasty.  What caliber is your rifle?  What was the load that you used? 
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2012, 04:42:18 PM »
"...shooting a traditional flintlock..."
Flintlock / PRB hunting is the best there is as far as I'm concerned...congratulations !

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2012, 04:47:07 PM »
Outstanding!
I see a lot of elk steaks. ;D
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 04:53:09 PM »
OUTSTANDING!!!!
Nothing is hard if you have the right equipment and know how to use it.  OR have friends who have both.

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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2012, 06:17:43 PM »
Congratulations!

Don't that get ya all jazzed up?!

An elk of "any" size with a flintlock is a true trophy!   

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2012, 06:56:30 PM »
You certainly have my envy, and my congratulations too.  Ain't it grand when the plan actually comes together?
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 08:41:40 PM »
Any elk in the bag is wondeful, all the more so, with a flinter. Congratulations, flintlock.

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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2012, 10:45:20 PM »
Congratulations; that rack is monster enough for me!  Yeah, what about that rifle?
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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2012, 01:49:29 AM »
Hey, great hunt!  Are you going to submit it to the Long Hunter record book with National Muzzle Loading Association?  I hope so as I sure get tired of seeing all those wannabes getting Long Hunter awards for using their blackplastic guns with scope sights and pistol bullets in Muzzle Blast Magazine.  Haven't gotten an elk with my longrifle yet and you provided great encouragement by showing this.  (Actual I let one off the hook last season because I don't like to shoot spike bulls but your is a nice trophy). 

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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2012, 01:58:04 AM »
Good job!

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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2012, 02:33:37 AM »
Now that's something to smile about.
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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2012, 03:04:21 AM »
Here are a few pictures of my rifle. The metal engraving was done by Chuck Dixon of Dixon's Muzzleloading Shop in Kempsville, PA. I did the rest.





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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2012, 03:06:29 AM »
Are you going to submit it to the Long Hunter record book with National Muzzle Loading Association? 

Hmm. I hadn't thought of that. I am a member of NMLRA and I get Muzzle Blasts. I may submit the picture and story. I doubt the rack is large enough to make the Long Hunter record book. It's worth checking I guess.

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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2012, 03:51:39 AM »
Not to hard to take an elk with a guide and a big bore modern rifle, but take one with a traditional muzzleloader, now that is true sportsmanship, in my book. Congratulations!
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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2012, 06:46:03 AM »
What caliber is your rifle and what powder charge did you use?

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2012, 06:53:22 AM »
Now that's just alright, and right at the tail end of the rut.  Looks like easy driving to haul him out, no packing meat on your back.  Congratulations. Bill

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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2012, 03:19:07 PM »
Congratulations! That's a trophy in my eyes, and in yours I'm sure. Enjoy the memories and the meat.
 
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2012, 04:50:21 AM »
A fine rifle and a fine trophy.  Great accomplishment! :)  Tim

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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 05:32:09 AM »
The last elk that I shot at was with an eary prototype of a Remington, razor that is.  I grazed him with my 58 flinter and got a handfull of hair. Congrats to you and  I say Flintlocks Forever. Do it again.   Smylee

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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2012, 05:52:03 AM »
Congratulations on a fine animal.....love the flinter as well.

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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2012, 07:19:30 AM »
congrats on the bull.  "my boys" came back empty-handed this year.  The big one hung up at 50yds-and they was slingin' arrows.

you don't want no big rack anyway-you have to hang it out in/on the barn! 
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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2012, 09:28:52 PM »
Congratulations. Fine eatin there ;D
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2012, 02:38:36 AM »
  Nice bull! Caliber?

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Re: My flintlock elk!
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2012, 05:22:09 AM »
To answer several questions...

I was shooting a 0.490" ball with 0.015" Ox Yoke patch lubed with mink oil tallow from Track of the Wolf. This was pushed by 90 grains of Swiss 3F powder. This chronographs at 2000 fps MV. The ball was cast from wheel weight lead. The severe flattening of pure lead balls made me question their suitability for elk, where penetration of 30" or more might be required. That led me to the "Cast Boolits" forum and ultimately to wheel weight lead.

A fellow who founded Cast Performance Bullet Company put me on to using WW lead. He told me, "If you read the writings of Southerland, Forsyth, Clifton, Cody, and Ashley you'll see ALL of them recommended hardening the balls." He also told me, "I once shot 4 balls into 1 1/4" at 100 yards with a 54 cal FLINTLOCK over a rest, and I did it with WW balls."

As for accuracy of wheel weight lead balls, see the 50 yard target below. I fired 10 shots of my hunting loads, though only 9 are clearly distinguishable.


The bull had been coming towards me at a slight angle. I shot him in the chest just to the right of his right front leg. The ball passed diagonally through the chest cavity, taking out both lungs, and stopped just under the skin on the far side. The ball had broken into two pieces, which I found side-by-side. Deformation of the two pieces indicates the ball hit something hard that caused it to shear into two pieces. Most likely this was the far side rib. If the ball had broken on hitting the front rib, the two pieces would have diverged as they passed through the chest cavity.

When I shot him, he staggered then turned and stumbled away on three legs. He dropped after 40 yards.

I built the rifle. It has a .50 caliber 38" Getz swamped barrel, Davis double set triggers and a large Siler lock. I had the muzzle coned to ease loading. Metal engraving was done by Greg Dixon of Dixon's Muzzleloading Shop in Kempton, PA.