Bud Siler trigger

[Cory Joe Stewart]

Hello all,

I ordered the set trigger designed by Bud Siler that Jim Chambers sales for the Mountain Rifle that I am building.  I have never worked with a set trigger of any sort.  Are there any pointers or anything to look out for with it.

Coryjoe

[Dave B]

well you learn some thin every day. I was not aware that Siler made triggers.  They are of the simple set style I assume? Where you have to set the rear trigger before you can fire  the gun. I just popped over to Jim Chambers web site and there it was. Bud had never released the the triggers to market  before but our friends have put them on the market where they need to be. I have yet to build a gun using these but I could see they would be great for the target shooters.

[Cory Joe Stewart]

It is a neat set.  The guy I am building it for is a hunter and I am wondering if this would be the best set for that situation. 

Coryjoe

[Dphariss]

It is a neat set.  The guy I am building it for is a hunter and I am wondering if this would be the best set for that situation. 

Coryjoe

Set triggers are fine for hunting so long as the shooter is used to them.
I would rather have them on a hunting rifle than not.

Dan

[JDK]

The Bud Siler triggers are of the single lever type and can only fire the rifle once "set".  While common on target guns, many do not perfer this style of trigger for a hunting gun.

Enjoy, J.D.

[greybeard]

Hello!  The set triggers are fine on a hunting rifle. If you have them set FINE for target then back the adjustment screw right off for hunting or you may have the gun fire afore you are on your target. With the screw backed off it requires more concentrated effort to fire the gun.   Ask me how I know.   Bob Reader

[Cory Joe Stewart]

Greybeard,

This one is light right now.  I am not used to working with one.  I have had it a day and have hurt myslef three times.  When you set the trigger off, the rear one pops forward with such force, and twice my thumb was in the way. 

So yeah I will dial it down some.

Coryjoe

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

Many of my rifles have set triggers.  My Jaeger has Davis double acting triggers, and yet when I had a poke at a young buck exploding from the trees, I did not have a second thought about them.  When I knew something was up, I set the triggers, and when he blasted out, I swung on him and touched her off.  But I use my hunting rifle and shot bag a lot on our trail walks, so my hands instinctively go where they need to to get the job done.
I shall install single acting triggers on my own mountain rifle build.

[Cory Joe Stewart]

Thanks for the info guys.  You are going to have to be patient with me as you always are but I need a little help with terminology. 

What is the difference between single and double action? 

I think that single means the set trigger must be set to fire??

Double is where you can reach to the front trigger without setting if needs be???

Also, do either one make any difference to the lock??

Coryjoe

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

Here's my definition, not necessarily from Funk and Wagnell!

Single acting double set trigger....trigger must be set to lower or fire the cock.
Double acting double set trigger... lock can be fired by pulling the front trigger without setting.
Single set trigger...a single trigger that to set is pushed forward.  Can be either single acting or double acting.

[Pete G.]

I would not use a single acting set trigger on a hunting rifle. Some will hold the sear away from the half cock notch unless set. They can usually be adjusted to not do this, but it can require a lot of fiddling. The biggest problem is that once you come to full cock, the only way to return to half cock is to fire the triggers.

[Glenn Hurley Jr.]

I have used the double set trigger for hunting but there are times the trigger has worked against me.  If the woods are quiet and deer are within earshot, when you set the trigger it sounds as if you struck a hammer to an anvil.  more than one deer has escaped for that reason.  If I have advance notice, I can cock the rifle, set the rear trigger, then touch off the front trigger at the right time.  but in a hunting situation I am not always that fortunate!

[Bob Roller]

I'd like to see all the set triggers I have made on request over the last 54
years. Personally,I can get along without them. 50 years ago when I was
really active in shooting, I bought a semi military Whitworth with an Alex Henry barrel from E.M.Farris
in Portsmouth,Ohio. This rifle was like new and after working with it for a year, I settled on 75 grains of 3fg
DuPont or C&H and the old Lyman 451112 Sharps/Bailey bullet og 485 grains. I have never owned or shot
a better shooting rifle than this one and keeping in mind that this was 50 years ago,my shooting skills were
much sharper than now and on a crisp October day in 1963,I shot a group that I have never been able to
repeat and it was a 5 shot group at 100 measured yards on the ARMCO Steel company's range that was covered
with a nickel. This was no doubt a freak or a serendipity but it happened and with a single trigger under a fine
Brazier 4 screw lock.

Bob Roller

[Ben I. Voss]

Once upon a time, I read a story somewhere in which two frontiersmen were in camp when a bear appeared. They quickly grabbed their rifles and tried to shoot it, but they accidentally picked up each others gun. One rifle had a plain trigger, the other single lever double set. You can imagine what happened: the man used to the double triggers fired prematurely trying to set the plain trigger, the other man couldn't get the double trigger gun to fire. Apparently they lived to tell the story, but you can bet that the merits of plain or set triggers was hotly debated back in the day!