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Offline Michigan Flinter

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load for .48 cal.
« on: January 07, 2013, 10:35:27 PM »
Greetings I'm starting to build my son's chunkgun and need some info on what would be a good load to shoot in it. It is an Edf Rayel .48 X 1 1/4 X 52 1/2 long barrel . Ball size, grade of powder ,patch thickness ect . is what i'm looking for.Thanks in advance for your help.  Paul Griffith won the barrel down to the York shoot last year and he donated it to shooter number 100 who was my son.
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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 12:33:11 AM »
Michigan,
Given their success at the game, I would contact Paul or Ron Borron with your question and rely on their expertise as at least a starting point.
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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 03:41:58 AM »
Every bbl is different.  And my first challenge for any bbl is finding the patch/ball combo that eliminates that cumbersome and needless wiping after x-many shots. 

Daryl assures me this is always possible.

Then i'm going to work the charge up/down to find what the bbl likes.  the bbl will let you know.
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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 06:25:53 PM »
Hello, my first post to ALR!  I thought this would be a good place to start because I am Michigan Flinter's son and the rifle being built is for me!

Never thought I'd win/receive a barrel by placing 100th in a match, but I'll take it!

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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 07:17:11 PM »
There's an article on chunkguns at    http://www.muzzleblasts.com/archives/vol3no2/articles/mbo32-1.shtml

I just looked through Don Davis' Muzzleloading Shooting  and Winning with the Champions and what he says is (paraphrasing and summarizing): Load depends a great deal upon the twist of the rifling, usually between 1:48 and 1:72.   All will work if you work up a proper load for them.   For 1:48 in 50 cal, he used 85 gr of 2F, where in another .50 he used 80 gr 2F.  One in 48 twist is accurate, but very temperamental in that a slight load deviation would spread bullets all over, but a 1:66 twist is more forgiving.     

So, given you've already got the barrel, the twist has already been chosen for you.   But, a 48 cal is so close to 50 cal I'd expect it to have the same general characteristics. I'd start with a tight ball/patch combo and 80 gr of 2F, and then be prepared to do a lot of shooting of 5 shot groups off  rest, and varying one parameter at a time (ball diameter, patch thickness, lube, powder charge and powder granulation) until I thought I'd found what gives the tightest group at chunk gun range.     I haven't tried it, but if you use the search engine of the ALR site here for 'chunk gun' you might find some earlier discussions that would give you a better idea of where to start with a load.   

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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 10:39:15 PM »
Greetings I'm starting to build my son's chunkgun and need some info on what would be a good load to shoot in it. It is an Edf Rayel .48 X 1 1/4 X 52 1/2 long barrel . Ball size, grade of powder ,patch thickness ect . is what i'm looking for.Thanks in advance for your help.  Paul Griffith won the barrel down to the York shoot last year and he donated it to shooter number 100 who was my son.
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Tight ball/patch fit, at least 1/2 ball weight of powder. The velocity helps with wind drift. Wipe every shot. Use a high friction patch lube.

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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2013, 02:47:15 AM »
An obvious question first. What is rifling twist and depth?  The deeper the grooves the thicker the patch needed. A slower rate of twist USUALLY requires a higher muzzle velocity (read heavier powder charge). Would start w .475 ball and .015 to .020 patch and 60 to 90 gr Ffg.

Bench/chunk shooting is a kinda slow paced affair waiting on wind and such. I would think saliva as lube could dry out occasionally so think I would try mink oil, 9+, ballistol and such.

Precision being the game and not a lot of shots fired in a day be sure tu run a damp patch between shots to keep variables down. I moisten my wyping patcs on my tounge and make one pass in and out. Use the other side for nxt shot.  Takes darn little time for peace of mind.
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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2013, 03:08:22 AM »
Hi,

 Like everybody else said it takes time and some experimenting to get a load worked up. Every barrel is different. With that being said I went back in my records on the load I use in my Jenkins 48cal chunk barrel and it shouts real good with 85gn 3F Swiss and .020 Tuff Ass patch(which you can't get any more) and a .475RB. That should get you started.

 Mike

« Last Edit: January 30, 2013, 03:16:27 AM by spiderman852 »

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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2013, 04:33:16 AM »
I would second Dan Pharris comments. This is a serious barrel and will do well with a tight ball and heavy charge. Likely over a 14 pound rifle; when you drag something that heavy up to the chunk you want an impressive boom.
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Offline Michigan Flinter

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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2013, 10:59:30 PM »
Thanks Mike(spidermatic) that was the info I was looking for sure appreciate all the responces from everyone. Hope to have the rifle done for the York shoot.

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Re: load for .48 cal.
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 11:33:21 AM »
mike going to give old 48 mag maker a swelled head posting that fine shooting with his barrel
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