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Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« on: January 17, 2013, 06:24:16 AM »
I just finished this Isaac Haines rifle for a friend up North.  It started life as a parts set from Chambers Flintlocks.  Standard wood, 38" .50 cal Rice bbl., added brass box (RCA #79), and homemade barrel slides, and a cheek piece star.  He wanted everything browned.  Please feel free to have at it.







« Last Edit: January 17, 2013, 06:30:01 AM by D. Taylor Sapergia »
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 06:31:29 AM »
Lovely...just lovely !  What did you finish the wood with ?
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 06:46:10 AM »
Hi Dave.  Thanks.  I stained it with Ferric Nitrate crystals dissolved in water - super-saturated solution.  I applied it twice, and waited (not very patiently) until it was completely dry.  Blushed it with a heat gun.

Circa 1850 Tung Oil finish.  This is the third one I  have finished with the oil, and I like it a lot.  It wears well, is as waterproof as an oil finish can be, and the finish is in rather than on, the wood.
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 06:55:01 AM »
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Please feel free to have at it.

Taylor, I think you made a typo, it' supposed to say " Please feel free to have it."

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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 08:18:49 AM »
Beautiful gun

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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2013, 01:39:36 PM »
Very nice !
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 01:41:04 PM »
I think ya done a heck of a job. I really like the carving
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 02:04:01 PM »
Taylor,
That's a beauty, as are all of your guns. Your friend will surely enjoy such a nice rifle.
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 03:12:57 PM »
Class Act!
Beautiful job!
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 03:27:42 PM »
Nice piece. I think even Ol' Issac would approve, except maybe the brown lock; but that's not your fault anyway.

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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 03:30:23 PM »
Taylor,  Nice work as usual.  I think you got the carving about right.  The original carving is a lot smaller than most people would believe from photos only.  I would like to see an ever so slight curve/dome in the patchbox lid and hinge.  It appears dead flat in the photos.  None the less you done yourself proud...Ron
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 05:15:56 PM »
I love your work Taylor. Beautiful.

I'm interested in the tung oil you used. Is it something you made up yourself or is it commercially available? How is it to use, drying time, etc.? How does it compare to Chambers Oil finish and Permalyn?
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 05:21:22 PM »
Well Taylor... once again you've knocked it out of the ballpark! That is one beautiful rifle. Love the architecture and carving, the metal finish (that lock!) and the wood finish are superb! Great Job!

Do you finish by scraping and then burnish the wood before applying the tung oil finish?

dave
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 05:23:07 PM »
Taylor,

Nice..... nice finish, nice carving, nice engraving.  All in all, a really nice rifle, as is elected!!

Now, if you could just not make them so "shiney new".  Oh, I know, send it to me, and I'll get it all broke in, and aged!!!
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 06:16:59 PM »
Hi Taylor,
Beautiful work as ever!!  Between your gun and some of Jim Kibler's, I am really getting to like plainer wood.  It really showcases the carving and architecture.

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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2013, 06:36:52 PM »
Just adding one more kudo.  Nice job Taylor.

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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2013, 06:53:51 PM »
Just beautiful! I'm not an expert,but I can find no fault with this firearm! Insperatonal as alway's. Makes my waiting for my shop to be built all the worse! Nice Nice Nice.
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2013, 07:32:37 PM »
Beautiful Taylor!! 
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2013, 07:58:39 PM »
Sweet ride, Taylor !

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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2013, 08:15:46 PM »
Better send Barbis some more pics so she can use them for marketing!!  very nice. 
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2013, 08:26:00 PM »
Sweet Rifle Taylor. Nice job.
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2013, 11:53:09 PM »

I really like what you've done with this rifle. I have a question about the stain, what is the difference or why two coats and then blush as opposed to a coat then blush then another coat then blush again? How would the result differ?




I stained it with Ferric Nitrate crystals dissolved in water - super-saturated solution.  I applied it twice, and waited (not very patiently) until it was completely dry.  Blushed it with a heat gun.
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2013, 12:05:06 AM »
Thanks folks!  Daryl and I took it out to the range today, just to make sure everything was working.  Ignition seems virtually instantaneous.  We only fired about 10 shots and shot a tight group an inch low at ~ 25 yds.  That's how I'm going to leave it...Quinn can file the sights in himself.

Ron, you are absolutely correct.  The lid and hinge of the box is almost perfectly flat...and I won't do it again.  I was thinking when I made the box that the original looked to me to be flat, and then I got my copy of "Lancaster Rifles" where nice colour pictures of RCA 79 shows that the box is indeed curved.   Oh well - next time.  In truth, I've never build a flat one before, so it's to be a one off.

Back to shooting, and one more comment.  The rifle has a .50 cal. Rice bbl with a factory crown.  The crown on this one is quite long and "steep" - not a 82 1/2 deg countersink -  and I did not polish it.  It loaded easily, was kind to the patches, and having put the sights in the very centre of the barrel, and equidistant above the bore, the rifle shot 6 o'clock and centred.  Load was only 72 grains FFFg GOEX, .493" pure lead ball from a Lyman .495 mold, .020" tough denim patch and spit for lube.
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2013, 12:16:13 AM »
About finish...Circa 1850 Tung oil is a commercial product.  It very much resembles Chamber's oil, though I think it may have a longer 'tack' time.  It soaks into hard maple nicely for the first four or five coats.  It cures in our climate in 24 hrs. easily, so daily applications can be done.  After about 6 applications, I steel wooled it back to the wood, and the nice thing about AF is it's tough to damage the stain.  The first 6 coats I applied with a two inch square of cotton sheet.  After I steel wooled, I used drops only on my fingers, and rubber the oil in...maybe another six coats.

To answer another question, I scraped out file marks, and tool marks around carving with specially ground utility knife blades, sharpened like a skate blade - no hook.  Particular care must be taken to watch for grain direction, to create a shearing effect without washboard.  I then sanded - can't help myself - to 400 grit.  Thanks again for the interest and support.
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Re: Isaac Haines - from Chambers Flintlocks
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2013, 02:34:23 PM »
Very nice in all respects Taylor.