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Offline jdm

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Brass blade dagger
« on: January 22, 2013, 04:08:39 AM »
 How common are brass blade knifes? I have a dagger I picked up about twenty years ago.  It's eleven inches over all with a six and a half inch brass blade.   I believe it's mid to late nineteenth century.  Thanks  JIM
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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 03:53:52 PM »
Well...I'm guessing very rare...I've never seen a real one. I have seen some pretty cool old brass "dagger like" letter openers though...is there any way you can post images of it?
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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 04:30:07 PM »
Are you sure its brass?  Bronze would be able to hold a work hardened edge that might suprise folks... not as good as steel but better than iron which is why it was used back in the ancient days a few thousand years ago.

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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 11:25:19 PM »
 It sure looks brass to me.Looks like it was made for opening  something other than letters. 
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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2013, 01:58:56 AM »
He's right...this aint no letter opener!









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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 06:20:55 AM »

Defense Natural Is in script on the blade. Made as a weapon .  I could see it being carried aboard ship  for self defense.  Any guess as to when or where?
  I had one person suggest it was made to open powder containers because the brass wouldn't spark.
Thanks T.C. for the pic post.    JIM
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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2013, 08:44:43 AM »
Doesn't look like a antique to me.  The square washer at the butt looks rather amateurish when it could have been inletted into the handle.  Through bolt too long to pull the blade back against the bolster, and the cross guard doesn't fully cover the head of the bolster.  Just too many items to think this was a serious piece.  The engraving isn't in any older style script.  High school project maybe?

Now having said that it will probably be a million dollar antique! 

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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2013, 03:59:30 PM »
Maybe Northern Africa made as a soldiers repast from a shell casing??? that handle looks like it might be horn?

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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2013, 10:46:37 PM »
[quote author=Jerry V Lape
Doesn't look like a antique to me.  The square washer at the butt looks rather amateurish when it could have been inletted into the handle.  Through bolt too long to pull the blade back against the bolster, and the cross guard doesn't fully cover the head of the bolster.  Just too many items to think this was a serious piece.  The engraving isn't in any older style script.  High school project maybe?

Now having said that it will probably be a million dollar antique! 
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Jerry  I've had similar thoughts to yours. Except , this has some age to it.How much I don't know. The blade has a number of dings and wear marks on it . Some of the writing is missing on the high part of the blade.  Ware? There is not enough dirt and grunge under the cross guard for a one hundredfifty year old knife.  Perhaps it was taken apart cleaned and put back together.  I agree the washer at the butt end  doesn't look that great. The phrase amateurish could be applied to it, but also to a lot of the old things we enjoy. Some guns,knifes and powder horns. 
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 The handle  is one piece . It looks like a straight grain.  I had not thought of the trench art theory before. That would  make it old enough to have enough age to make a guy wonder.
 Thanks for your replies.
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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2013, 10:52:25 PM »
[quote author=Jerry V Lape

Now having said that it will probably be a million dollar antique! 

I hadn't thought of selling but for a million dollars  I'd quit wondering  about who,what and where it was made.
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Re: Brass blade dagger
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2013, 04:22:09 AM »
Theatrical prop?
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