Author Topic: M Fordney rifle (Read 9882 times)

dakota1647819 · « **on:** January 10, 2013, 11:29:54 PM »

Looks like a M Fordney on auction Jan 12. Auction ZIP ID 16912, with a bunch of pics.
This may have been posted already, if so, sorry.

JTR · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2013, 12:04:38 AM »

Thanks for posting that!

It looks like a very nice condition Fordney! Not carved, but nice furniture and a 'checkered' wrist!

Maybe this link will lead to the gun quicker. Go down about 3/4 of the page;

http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/photopanel.cgi?listingid=1638075&category=0&zip=91922&kwd=Fordney

John

Shreckmeister · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2013, 12:07:40 AM »

So glad we all know about it now!

rich pierce · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2013, 06:52:44 AM »

Check out the Henry http://www.auctionzip.com/Full-Image/1638075/fp631.cgi

JTR · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2013, 07:49:10 AM »

Quote from: Shreckmeister on January 11, 2013, 12:07:40 AM

So glad we all know about it now!

Oh! Excuse me! I didn't notice your name on it...

John

Fullstock longrifle · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2013, 11:44:01 PM »

Anybody hear the results?

Frank

Buck · « **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2013, 12:38:19 AM »

Went for $14,000.00

Avlrc · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2013, 01:18:21 AM »

If you say it real fast, it don't sound like much

JTR · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2013, 02:03:09 AM »

Wow! Sounds like we weren't the only ones that knew about it!
I wonder if that's some sort of record for an Uncarved Fordney?

Anyone here buy it?

John

rich pierce · « **Reply #9 on:** January 13, 2013, 03:19:29 AM »

What did the Henry go for?

Shreckmeister · « **Reply #10 on:** January 13, 2013, 04:40:47 AM »

You had to be there

JTR · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2013, 09:01:08 PM »

Quote from: Shreckmeister on January 13, 2013, 04:40:47 AM

You had to be there

So were you there!
Did you buy the rifle?
John

Shreckmeister · « **Reply #12 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:31:52 AM »

The Henry went to a local collector. Interesting gun, could be an early N. Hawk.
I should have taken some better pictures of it. The Fordney came out of
a family that had it for many decades. The wife of the original owner passed
and the kids had no interest. All I got was a couple really nice lithos of hanging
game in old oak frames with plaster relief of hanging game on each side of the frame and a rifle crossed over a fishing pole on the bottom. The lithos were
dated 1889 and the frames looked that old. They're gonna look great on my wall.
Other than that, all I got was a sore butt from the ride.
You were right John. My name wasn't on it.

Shreckmeister · « **Reply #13 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:40:02 AM »

Just took a look and the sideplate on the rifle with the Henry lock was a dead on match for the one on the rifle at this link. Dead on exact.
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=3844.0

JTR · « **Reply #14 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:59:03 AM »

Rob,
The day after the auction isn't the time to decide you might have let a Hawk slip through your fingers!

I zoomed in on the not so great auction pics, and the PB finale does sort of look like one Hawk used, but it doesn't look like there were any side plates?
Did you catch what the local guy paid for it?
Might be worth trying to track him down if Hawks name is on the barrel.

John

Shreckmeister · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2013, 04:46:46 AM »

Unsigned. He knows what he has.

mr. no gold · « **Reply #16 on:** January 16, 2013, 03:39:31 AM »

Looked to me like a Hess rifle for all the world!
Dick

jdm · « **Reply #17 on:** January 16, 2013, 05:01:51 AM »

It doesn't look Hawk related to me. Not up to his standerds.

Dick, Did the Hess family use patch box finials like that? i thought most of theres were the half round two piece box. JIM

Shreckmeister · « **Reply #18 on:** January 16, 2013, 06:23:48 AM »

Dick, can you show us an example of the hess you refer to. It doesn't bear resemblance to tthe 2 in the library.
JTR can you show us the hawk finial you refer to
JDM. I can see the possibility of early hawk work. I've seen examples of other makers early work not close in quality to their later work. As stated the unusual sideplate was identical to one in the library

JTR · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2013, 07:23:59 AM »

This is the one I was thinking of. The auction picture wasn't clear enough to really see how well they'll match. You'll have to be the judge of that.

John

Buck · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2013, 01:22:38 PM »

Looks pretty close.
Buck

J. Talbert · « **Reply #21 on:** January 21, 2013, 03:33:42 AM »

As best I can see from the auction photos, (blown up with the IPad ), both the side plate and the PB finial appear to be pretty good matches to the other two examples.

Jeff

eddillon · « **Reply #22 on:** January 22, 2013, 03:11:24 AM »

Is the engraving "early" Fordney? Most examples that I have seen seem more sophisticated. Is it a re-conversion? After having been stung in a different genre of antique firearms (engraved 1866 Winchester), I am a bit of a skeptic.

Mark Tyler · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2013, 04:48:52 AM »

The Fordney was deeply engraved, reconverted, artificially tiger striped and in very good condition.

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Author Topic: M Fordney rifle (Read 9882 times)

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