Author Topic: 5Hawkens I built, 3 new (Read 11475 times)

Herb · « **on:** February 03, 2013, 08:56:33 AM »

Top is a .54 percussion Don Stith Hawken with a 14.5" trigger reach, for Dan P. This has a solid breech. Next, my .58 flinter, maybe 800-1000 shots through it by now, and two seasons of elk hunting. Then my .54 caplock, couple thousand shots through it. Then a new one, .54 Green Mountain barrel, engraved lock (Cherry Corners? The triggers are CC). Then a .54 Green River barrel, heat blued metal, except for the barrel.

docone · « **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2013, 03:52:17 PM »

Eye candy.
Lookin good for sure!
Something special about an Hawken.

wattlebuster · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2013, 04:39:12 PM »

The flint pulls at my heartstrings

Keb · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2013, 04:48:18 PM »

Nice...
I may have to move west of the Mississippi so I can shoot the one I own. For some odd reason Hawken guns are not appreciated around this part of the country. :/

duca · « **Reply #4 on:** February 03, 2013, 05:17:52 PM »

Sweet! Nice array of Toys. Have fun with them all....

smylee grouch · « **Reply #5 on:** February 03, 2013, 05:37:31 PM »

Thanks for posting Herb. Do you have any pics of the solid breech and is the trigger gaurd on the solid breech gun one of your making? They all look nice by the way.

Topknot · « **Reply #6 on:** February 03, 2013, 06:34:46 PM »

HERB, the third one from the top is begging to be in my hands. Its calling my name.!!! Really beautiful rifles. Theres just something about a Hawken !

topknot

Herb · « **Reply #7 on:** February 03, 2013, 08:55:16 PM »

Smylee- Here is that solid breech in a .54 Hawken built for Joe Gondek by Neill Fields. It has a Mariano Modena style patchbox and single trigger.

I don't know where they got the parts. The trigger looks like a Leman.

The top rifle in my photos is built of Don Stith parts.

Topknot · « **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2013, 09:26:31 PM »

Herb, not trying to brag , but i also had a modena copied hawken back in the late 80s or early 90s that was copied from the actual modena hawkens that was in some museum somewhere in the west. IT was .58 cal. IT wasnt as purdy as your rifles are. The builder was Mike Adcock in arkansas. Has anyone here ever done business with him or know if he is still building? He is a fine fellow and great to work with.

topknot

smylee grouch · « **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2013, 09:57:50 PM »

Herb, I was thinking of the full stock on the extrem left in the picture. Don Stith gun. Smylee

Herb · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2013, 10:00:22 PM »

The Stith rifle being built. The wood was too thin so the lock stood proud. I had to file the lock plate down to the wood.

Herb · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2013, 10:06:50 PM »

The second from the right, the plain one with engraved lock and Cherry Corners triggers: I don't know where I got this lock. Anybody know who made it?

smylee grouch · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2013, 10:26:09 PM »

There might have been more than one but I think Dixie sold them at one time.

Herb · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2013, 10:44:35 PM »

Topknot- the Mariano Modena rifle is in Jim Gordon's museum at Glorieta, NM. He has about two dozen original Hawkens there.

Crossed Arrows · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2013, 11:37:08 PM »

I've had the pleasure of handling the Mariano Modena Hawken rifle a couple of times at the Denver Antique Gun Collectors show. As much as I like my Lyman GPR, this is the real deal.

Crossed Arrows · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2013, 11:52:37 PM »

By the way, the Colorado Gun Collectors Association, www.cgca.com will have their 2013 show the weekend of 18-19 May this year on the north side of Denver. Check out their website. For $8 a day as a visitor, it is some of the best eyecandy you can see. This is not a modern Rambo type show with MREs, Pakistani knives and mouse guns, this is high quality with quite a few displays of actual collections.

mountainman70 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2013, 01:17:38 AM »

Quote from: Keb on February 03, 2013, 04:48:18 PM

Nice...
I may have to move west of the Mississippi so I can shoot the one I own. For some odd reason Hawken guns are not appreciated around this part of the country. :/

Yes they are ,Keb.Ol Dave here in Wva is close to bein a addikt o them hawken gunsOur brother builds a fine Hawken,them caplocks are a mite pee culiar!lol.I have both,like the flint real well,too.Great work.Dave

JoeG · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2013, 01:22:31 AM »

Smylee-
the solid breech is the one that Sharon Barrel used on there fullstock hawken kits
it has a nice correct direct drilled flash channel
I bought 6 of them from track when they went out of business ,I still have a couple left

trigger guard is that large bow hawken from Track
the lock I picked up 25 years ago from DGW (it came engraved)

Barrel is a 1' Getz 36 ' long with a 1 in 48 twist ,it is a shooter !

Neil did a great job putting it all together

smylee grouch · « **Reply #18 on:** February 04, 2013, 01:45:16 AM »

Thanks Joe, I have the parts for a eary J&S Hawken with a breech like the one in the Museum of the Fur Trade but it will be some time before I get to it My breech and lock had to be custom made as no one makes that style and I like the eary style guns (Hawken) more than the latter ones.

Bob Roller · « **Reply #19 on:** February 04, 2013, 03:51:44 AM »

These pictures do not show the Meier logo on the lock plate.
Can someone furnish a really close picture of this lock?
Bob Roller

Bob Roller · « **Reply #20 on:** February 04, 2013, 03:58:59 AM »

I have 5 of these plates and hammers and mine are from the W.Morgan
lock project from around 1958.They were sold as a kit but I always made my own
mechanisms for them.

Bob Roller

Topknot · « **Reply #21 on:** February 04, 2013, 04:22:48 AM »

Herb, I just back to the computer . Wow that modina hawkens is some punkin!! The one I had was a plain jane compared to it.

thanks for posting it,

topknot

Herb · « **Reply #22 on:** February 04, 2013, 04:42:30 AM »

Bob, you posted on the "Over the Back Fence" board about "Does anyone recognize...". Something about "you could have filed down the bolster." I think you meant that for me, so I looked at my builder's notes and I filed down both the bolster and lock plate (above the hammer). Lowered the lock .030" into the wood at the front of the bolster, and filed the top half of the plate .016 behind the snail.

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #23 on:** February 04, 2013, 09:51:47 PM »

Bob, email to ya...

snowdragon · « **Reply #24 on:** February 05, 2013, 12:16:34 AM »

Keep at it Herb, you'll get it right one of these days.

Seriously, I've learned so much just from studying your pics. Thanks. Bill

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