Cleaning; I know,I know

[duca]

Lol. I know this has been talked about a lot but just wanted to know if anyone else uses Winchester Sutler MooseMilk? I have been using this product for like 30 years now and love it. I just realized how low I was,  "have to order some more" on MooseMilk. So I picked up a bottle of Hoppe's #9 because I been hearing some of you guys Say good things about it. Just wanted to hear everyone's thought's. Thanks.
http://winchestersutler.com/ShotLoad.html#300P

[smylee grouch]

I use water with real good results.   Just my thoughts.

[Standing Bear]

Water, Hess!  If you are going to use Hoppes it is 9 Plus not 9. Plain Hoppes 9 is for modern guns and smokeless powder.
TC

[nosrettap1958]

I just use hot soapy water, then hot water then WD40 then some preservation oil. Its cheap and gets the job done, quick and easy. The problem with black powder is not cleaning it as they are, I believe, easier to clean then modern smokeless firearms, it is you have to clean it after use. You just cannot let it sit or else you may have a real mess on your hands.

I love cleaning my muzzleloaders because it takes care of me so I'll take care of it.

[mjm46@bellsouth.net]

Duca,
Are you planning to clean your rifle with those solutions? I use Hoppes 9 Plus as a lube sometimes, but mostly I use spit. It's cheap and seems to be an endless supply.

As for cleaning, warm water and a little dishwash, Dry the bore well, swab a little WD-40 to clear any remaining water. Then a wipe down with Rem Oil. Works great for me. Never had a rusted barrel even hear in the humid south.

[Standing Bear]

That was supposed to be "Water, yess!!"  !@*%&@ smartalec phone

[Paul Griffith]

+1 on the water & dishsoap

[Hungry Horse]

 I didn't know anybody actually bought "Moose Milk" instead of making it. All it is is a half cup of water soluble oil ( from the auto parts store), and a half cup of (I think it was originally 409, but now is Simple Green, or Awsome) to a gallon of water. 409 wasn't cold water activated like these more advanced detergents are today.
 I used to make, and market, some of the blackpowder solvents, and patch lubes, years ago. But, I stopped making them, and started doing Black Powder 101 seminars, because the warning labels required to sell this stuff is larger than the bottle.

                 Hungry Horse

[Michigan Flinter]

I clean with tap water ,plug touch hole and fill bore with water ,than use about two patches to get the bore clean ,four or five dry patches to get it dry than lube bore with bear grease . Works for me.

[axelp]

I use room temp water, I fill the bore and let it sit for about 15 min. then I pour it out and re-fill and pour out with no waiting til the water comes out fairly clear--this is usually three times. Then I use cloth patches that are wet with lehigh valley or Ballistol until the patches come out clean. This process usually takes me more than 3 patches-- about 10-12 clean patches. Done. I inspect the bore after a week and might use more lubed patches, but its usually not necessary.

K

[hanshi]

Cleaning a BP barrel is incredibly simple and nowhere near as complicated as some try to make it.  All you need is tap water (with or without soap), patches and some kind of preservative oil.  That's it!  No special concoctions or formulas or esoteric procedures.  Just tap water patches and preservative oil. 

1.  Clean with tap water (soap or not).
2.  Patches till they come out mostly clean.
3.  Dry bore - patches, hair dryer, alcohol, WD40 or any combo of these.
4.  Patch with gun oil, Barricade or similar protectant.

Fini.

[Crossed Arrows]

Hot soapy water, an undersized jag (45 for my 54s) with thick rough cleaning patches like terrycloth or old towel material to get into the grooves better.  Then I stand the barrel muzzle end down for several minutes and dry patch it the same way. 

An Army buddy gave me several bottles of LSA and I lube with that.

Gun is kept in the basement, so when I am puttering around down there I will run a patch in the barrel and then another with LSA.  My gun, my fun.

[SCLoyalist]

Duca,  I use plain tap water for cleaning, just as several others who have replied.   That said, if you have been using a brand of moose milk and loving it for 30 years,  I'd suggest just laying in a lifetime supply of the stuff and keep on keeping on.   If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and obviously for you, your cleaning procedure ain't broke.

[Standing Bear]

2X on if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Same on my 56 Ford hot rod - 292 punched and stroked to 317 makin 325 horses. Call it ole shot n got(sp?).

[duca]

Just wanted to know if anyone was using or heard of Winchester Sutler MooseMilk. Its a really good product.
Dixie GunWorks sells it. Eats Blackpowder up. As far as Hoppes #9 plus, I plan on using it as a patch lube only. As far as cleaning go's I never use water. A few patches of MooseMilk or Lehigh then finish up wiith Ballistol.

[Nate McKenzie]

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=24312.0

[duca]

That's Crazy.......Hi Nate; Seen and talked to you at the The 18th Century Artisan Show. That was a great show.

[Pete G.]

Windshield washer fluid. Plug the vent, pour some down the barrel, place your finger over the muzzle and slosh back and forth a few times. Most of the fouling pours right out. A few patches to dry and your favorite brand of CLP.

[smylee grouch]

I forgot to mention that I like to force the water out of the breech area as I think it cleans the fouling out of those tough angle areas as in drum and nipple types. After my patches come clean using plain room temp water , I dry with 3-4 flannel patches and use WD-40. Never had a problem now in over 40 years.