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Offline Nate McKenzie

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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2013, 04:26:45 AM »
I have used the Rice Southern Classic and a wt. barrels. I was very pleased with them all. The A wt. 40 cal is great for carrying but the other two in 36 cal hold a little steadier. Several of the southern rifles at this link use these barrels. There are several pages so click on the words [Older posts] at the bottom right.      http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/search/label/Nate%20McKenzie

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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2013, 05:05:48 PM »
back to hanging proper.

i have an A-30-46" coming from Mr. Burton real soon.  I figger on letting the full bbl in but being ready and willing to trim it back and or add butt weight to get the balance proper.

but that's my next after next...

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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2013, 07:01:22 PM »
This Tn rifle won't be self built; not only do I not have the tools but also because severe Ra in my hands makes it impossible for me to use the tools.  And this is also a consideration in rifle weight/muzzle heaviness.  My off hand cannot support much weight but I still like the rock solid feel of a muzzle that doesn't wiggle around.  I'm thinking a good swamped barrel of 42" would be a fine compromise.  I don't care to necessarily copy a specific rifle or even maker.  A closely authentic version that would "fit in" and be given a "pass" will do.  A 42" rifle will reach my nose and it looks good, too.

I can't tell you guys how much useful help you've given me.  I need all the help and advice I can get and now know three times what I did a few weeks ago.  That means I know about 15% of what I NEED to know ;D.

Money is a major issue and I have not settled on a builder or even whether or not it will be a finished rifle or an in-the-white, etc.  This will be a fairly long term project and not something to be accomplished in, say, 6 months. 

What are some important characteristics that tend to define a Tn rifle from the 1800 to 1820 period that I should consider?  I'm all ears and questions.     
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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2013, 06:47:53 AM »
   I love my squirrel rifle. It has an A weight .40 Rice @ 44inches. At first it gave me trouble but I found out how to embrace her and now she's my favourite rifle to shoot. I think you  picked the right length for your stature. The small bores are a hoot to shoot.Enjoy.

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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2013, 04:14:30 PM »
In most of the discussions about building a gun, every one seems to be hung up on being PC (period correct).  It's OK to get
the proper buttplate and trigger guard to place it in the proper "school", but use a barrrel that you can hold well (if you are
building an off hand gun).  I can recall building a barrel for Warren Fitzgerald that was a copy of an original barrel he had, it
was larger at the muzzle than at the breech.   If you are building a gun for off hand shooting, you surely don't want a little
tiny barrel (such as a 3/4" straight, cute but, or even a light swamped barrel).  If you want to be a winner you need some
muzzle weight.  I have a plain gun built by Dave Motto with a 13/16" straight barrel in 40 cal., great shooter, holds well and
won a lot of stuff with it.   Once again, being PC is OK, but use a barrel that will give you the weight and balance that you need
to shoot it well.  NO one is going to criticise you for having the wrong barrel on your gun............Don

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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2013, 05:07:40 PM »
This Tn rifle won't be self built; ...

What are some important characteristics that tend to define a Tn rifle from the 1800 to 1820 period that I should consider?  I'm all ears and questions.      

two things: if someone else is building it then you need to trust their interpretation of the TN rifle of that period.

second, i've looked and dug and researched all around, but can find no consensus as to a TN rifle of any period.  (which i get now as they varied so much by maker and region as you look at them closely).  But if you were asking _me_: English lock, long bbl, small cal, iron, crescent, extended tang, slim and plain stock (of maple, walnut, cherry, or ash), double set-are key characteristics to me.

i'd say find a builder who is making stuff you like, and let him rock and roll with it.  trust.  point out the big things and let him/her work out the details within the framework.  

« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 05:13:38 PM by WadePatton »
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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2013, 06:27:22 PM »
Soddy-Daisy rifles in the ALR library. Not sure of build dates, doubt they are in the period you want.

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=6000.0

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=2302.0

I suspect this is TN but its not id'ed
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=4384.0
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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2013, 07:16:08 PM »
Dennis
In  my opinion the SG rifle is Samuel Glover. I he worked with Alfred Gross and a lot of the details on his rifles are very much Gross.  Most of the rifles that I have seen by him have iron butt plates and cast brass trigger guards. The guard on this rifle is not identical to Gross but very close...You may remember Jim Moran, he was a big Glover fan and lived near where Gross and Glover worked. I traded Jim a Glover for a Gross at one of Robins early shows. He told me that Glover lived just down the road from Gross. What ever that meant..Louie

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Re: PC/HC?
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2013, 11:56:29 PM »
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In  my opinion the SG rifle is Samuel Glover. I he worked with Alfred Gross and a lot of the details on his rifles are very much Gross.
I would certainly trust Louie's thoughts on S G standing for "Samuel Glover".  Samuel was a Sullivan County TN gun maker as was Alfred Gross. Nice looking rifle.
Dennis
« Last Edit: June 02, 2013, 09:28:46 PM by Dennis Glazener »
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