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roamer

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Repairing cracked stock
« on: June 07, 2013, 04:16:51 PM »
Howdy, well im finally getting around to repairing a cracked stock of my H&A underhammer. Those familiar will surmise the crack is running horizontal from where the stock meets the steel lock mechanism. Tried Gorilla glue, held for a while than let go again. Problem probably due to the walnut grain. Gonna try a brass patch around the wrist . Any help as to what type of brass and thickness , thanks

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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2013, 04:49:20 PM »
Next time, just use a high-quality wood glue (e.g. Tite-bond).  I'm not sure how, but if you can get the Gorilla Glue residue out of the crack, you should be able to re-glue it.  I suspect someone here who has done just that will have helpful tips.

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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2013, 05:42:29 PM »
I agree, on the job I've found Gorilla Glue to be a bigger hassle and mess than it was worth. TiteBond III says
it's stainable but have not tried that aspect yet.

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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2013, 06:11:17 PM »
 I prefer Tite-bond hide glue. Gorilla glue is only good to fix broken gorillas, IMO.

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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2013, 06:49:38 PM »
Gorilla glue is near useless But now you have it in the joint....
Always us a DEDICATED wood glue like Elmers Carpenter Glue or Titebond

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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 06:53:07 PM »
Sorry to say but once Gorilla glue dries it is darn near impossible to remove. I once used acetone successfully but the glue job was only about an hour old. I have used it with mixed success on other projects, I don't like it and likely will never use it again.

It is hard to beat the tried and true Titebond II, have not tried the III.
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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 07:09:05 PM »
I think Gorilla is a form of urethane.

If the stock is oil soaked, no glue on earth will hold it.
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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 08:52:00 PM »
I just repaired the wrist of my '97 Winchester.  It is black walnut, and has a lot of oil soak, being a Winchester, and likely stood on it's butt for the last 100 or so years.  I shaved off the top of the wrist to a flat plane, made a piece to replace the missing wood, and drilled 1/16" holes down into the old wood to form a matrix of anchors.  I mixed up some AcraGlas from Brownell's stained it black, and laid it on.  I clamped the wood first with tape to orient it and then with rubber bands to add pressure.  After it cured, I finished it up, and shot it on Sunday and again last night.  It seems to be holding up fine, but time will definitely tell.
Having already tried Gorilla glue, I think you're euchred.  Anytime a glue line lets go, it is next to impossible to re-glue it with success.  It may be necessary to completely break the wood apart, and mechanically remove the urathane expanding Gorilla glue.  I've fixed some stocks that were smashed to pieces using Acra Glas,,,great epoxy.  But on raw wood, Titebond III is wonderful.
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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2013, 12:29:07 AM »
Brownell's Acraglas (not the gel) is very strong and best for repairing cracks. Mix a little walnut stain with the acraglas (a little stain goes a long way). I agree with Acer that if the wood is oil-soaked, it will be futile trying to repair a split. Always wear safety glasses when mixing acraglas or adding stain to acraglas (especially). Trust me on this!
 

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Re: Repairing cracked stock
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2013, 02:41:37 AM »
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I think Gorilla is a form of urethane.

If the stock is oil soaked, no glue on earth will hold it. "


Yes Acer, once soaked it  or anything else will not hold.  It is time to go to a mechanical device then.

Gotilla glue is the most expensive glue on earth.  Open the bottle, use one or two drops, throw the rest away because the next time you go to use it it will be dried hard as a rock in the bottle.