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A boys rifle?
« on: June 27, 2013, 03:09:59 AM »
I recently acquired a flintlock stock and lock for what seems to be a boy's rifle. The stock has carving on both sides and the patch box is ornate.  There is also an eagle made out of brass on the other side. The lock is small and in relatively good order, however without a trigger assembly I can't really tell. The measurements are as follows:  stock 33", butt 4.5", channels 18x78", tang  inlet. 5/8x2".  I don't have a barrel.  These measurements are approximate.  I wish I could upload some pics, can't figure out how. I've restored percussion and bolt action rifles, but flintlocks are new for me. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2013, 06:50:20 AM »
I'm posting these pictures for Jonk,









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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 12:31:40 AM »
It looks like the remains of a reworked Numrich Arms 'Minuteman" or similar rifle, from the 1960-70's. Some parts, such a sideplate and cheek inlay, are from a different source. Re-stocked in nice maple.
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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2013, 03:31:37 PM »
 Boy's rifle or half stock?

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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2013, 03:58:14 PM »
 Tom's got it right. Its a Numrich minuteman, or carbine, for sure. The dead flat patchbox and the glued in pipes are the sure fire identifying features.

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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2013, 04:38:39 PM »
I think the  stock is artificially striped and may not even be maple, too.

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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 11:32:37 PM »
I hope the cost of acquisition was not too much. :(

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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 07:37:13 PM »
 These guns were notoriously weak at the wrist, because the breechplug, and the tang, were only hooked together with a piece of cut off Allen wrench welded to the tang, that was stuck into the Allen screw that was used as a breechplug. I have had three of these guns, and two were straight maple, while the other appeared to be birch. The locks worked, but were nothing to write home about. The furniture was mostly formed, rather than cast. I think the only brass piece of furniture on the gun that was cast was the triggerguard.
 This is the first one I've seen that was engraved. All the ones I've owned were kit guns. Maybe yours is one that was sold assembled.

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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2013, 10:15:16 PM »
Jonk, the original owner took the triggerguard and the barrel, the only parts worth havingand sold the rest.  The triggerguard was fairly plane and nondescript for double set triggers and the barrels were ok to good depending on how well they were centered when they were drilled.
 
The barrels were made from octagon stock and drilled and I believe button rifled.  Drilling a bar of iron or steel that long was a $#@* shoot as to getting it centered on both ends.

I am not putting down your stock and lock but they were devised in the early '70's and sold to a lot of ARW units (Numeriches contribution to the Bicentennial or buycentenial).   The ARW units with these guns probably got more people interested in shooting muzzleloaders than can be imagined.

I have a flintlock that I built using one of the Numrich 32" X15/16 X .45 that is a real good shooter.  It was only about .001 or .002 off at the breech.
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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2013, 09:18:10 AM »
Whitebear;

  The  Numrich Arms Minuteman had a single trigger. The lock had no fly.

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Re: A boys rifle?
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2013, 11:00:04 AM »
I stand corrected.
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