NMLRA schuetzen rules?

[LH]

Are grease groove and or paper patched bullets  allowed in the schuetzen match at Friendship? I cant find anything that addresses that in the rules.  I think they are allowed since they shoot an offhand 200yd target,  but does anyone here know?  Also,  I assume the guns must be muzzleloaders,  but are black powder cartridge guns allowed in those matches?   

[Kermit]

You're sort of tiptoeing along the interface between "traditional" muzzleloading and the traditional single shot guys when you ask about muzzleloading schuetzen. There are a few here that cross that membrane with impunity. 

Too bad the Wyoming Schietzen Union's site died and is yet to be resurected. You might pose this query on the ASSRA forum too.

http://www.assra.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

[Bob Roller]

Anything that was used in Schuetzen matches back in "The Day" be it paper patched or grease grooves
is OK. I prefer GG bullets but then whatever your "Scheibenbuchse"likes will do.

Bob Roller

[Bob Roller]

My apologies for not finishing the answer. No,a cartridge rifle may not compete in a muzzle loading event
at Friendship but in years past,I have shot a 40-85 rolling block AFTER all the ML matches were concluded.
There are matches for BP cartridge rifles at certain times on the Friendship Range and Muzzle Blasts should have
them listed.

Bob Roller

[Kermit]

Schuetzen article from MuzzleBlasts, May '96:

http://www.muzzleblasts.com/archives/vol1no1/articles/schiffer.shtml

[LH]

Thanks Bob,   I'll drop by the line this fall and snoop around.  Looks like a fun game.  I was just trying to figure out if I have a gun I could use in it, but the only fast twist muzzleloaders I own all have (telescope sights......Shhhhhhhhhh)       So I'll keep my eyes peeled for something legal.   

[smylee grouch]

LH, don t leave that scoped ML at home as if I'm not mistaken there are other matches that you can shoot it in. I dont own one myself (scoped ML) and dont ever plan on owning one except maybe for those matches that you can shoot them in.

[Kermit]

  Should read the article.

It mentions the idea of roundball schuetzen. Any of you Friendship denizens able to tell us if that's happened?

[smokinbuck]

Fact or fiction, I don't know, but I have no reason to doubt what I was told when I bought this rifle. I have a rifle by Wilson Stewart of Crawford County, Ohio that is reported to have won the first scheutzen match held at Friendship. Can't tell you when it was shot but it was a while ago. The rifle is complete with a full compliment of sights, (tang, open rear and front blade) as well as a "bullet" mold. It shoots a .45 caliber greased conical bullet.  I don't know if the rules have changed but tha's what this one shoots.
Mark

[LH]

I saw that you can use roundballs in the article,  but I also know what I can do with a roundball at 200yds and I know what competitive scores are in that game.  There's a big gap between the two for me   If they'd let me shoot my Sharps,  I could at least worry some of the other shooters,  but shooting roundballs,  I'd just be slingin lead I'm afraid.  I've got a barrel that's a 1:16 twist .408 groove but the only way I could use it in time for September would be to put it on an old underhammer action.  I might could get it to shoot ok,  but that would be a sorry looking piece of work I think and not worth the effort to me.  I do have some good sights I could use though........hmmmm???