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Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« on: September 15, 2013, 10:34:07 PM »
I would like to know if anyone has made a 20 guage smoothbore out of a 54 cal GPR barrel and any other comments anyone may have on the idea?

Offline Dan'l 1946

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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 01:02:40 AM »
Depends on how big the barrel is across the flats. Boring it out to 24 gauge ought to be safe since you would essentially be just removing the rifling and cleaning the bore up.

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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 06:21:08 PM »
Bear in mind that the dovetails for the underlugs on those barrels are very very deep.  I doubt that there would be enough steel in  the barrel wall to accommodate a 20 gauge bore, safely.
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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 09:21:52 PM »
 And, keep in mind that your breechplug is probably 5/8"X18 which might be a stretch for a 24 gauge let alone a 20.

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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 02:56:04 PM »
You had me worried when I read "2 Gauge" with a .54 barrel ;D
A .54 barrel would not even be a breech plug for a "2 gauge"
As others have said, you would be stretching it with a 24 gauge, not to mention a 20 gauge
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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 07:03:08 PM »
Saw that too, Old Ford, however I discounted it as a typo. You could use that Lyman rifle's barrel for a ramrod in a 2 bore.
Here's one Steve Zihn was working on.
The ball size 1.350" and weighs 3,500gr.  Nice crown, A?

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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 02:05:50 AM »
Is that a rifled barrel? I want one, and one ball for it. One ought to be enough!

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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2013, 03:15:20 AM »
That Zihn thing ought to have wheels on it Daryl!

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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 08:14:36 AM »
Dang me!!! Some people are never happy with just a big bore they have to have humungus!! FRJ

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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 02:53:12 PM »
well, I do believe Steve Zihn "wins"!  Would like to see more pics of that.  Separate thread, of course.

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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2013, 04:40:27 PM »
This reminds me of back in my guiding days. I would far rather the hunter have a 30-06 or 270 he could really shoot than a magnum he was afraid of and could barely keep all shots on a  hillside. Or shoot a 30" triangular 3 shot group on an elk at 40 yards with a 300 wby with no misses. Yeah, it can be done if the shots hit the right places.

As Taylor mentioned the dovetails may be too deep to make a safe 20 bore. I have seen photos of a split in the bottom of a dovetail of a TC Hawken or one of the clones it was 54 IIRC.  Dovetails, even shallow ones, are major stress risers and any barrel that has seen much use (or even no use in some cases) will usually show some "anomoly" in the bore at the dovetails unless its a really heavy barrel. A tight patch on a short jag can be very informative....


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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 07:41:26 PM »
Daryl - I corrected YOUR typo - 'ball size .1350" '  ??
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Re: Making a 2guage out of a ruined 54 cal GPR barrel
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2013, 09:48:26 PM »
OK I Believe you guys!! My thinking is that it should be allright at 28guage as that will just take out the rifling and polish it smooth.  Any comments on that will be greatly appreciated. FRJ