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Offline WadePatton

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2013, 09:45:56 PM »
wow.  405 on the stock.
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2013, 09:56:23 PM »
The winner on the barrel has bid on all the parts in the past.  Don't bid against him.   Let him have it all.
certainly...not me boss  ;)

I guess the warbucks ran thin, he got beat on the trigger-and those were ultra late bids.
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2013, 09:58:42 PM »
The same guy got the stock as the barrel.  He is spending what he needs to to keep it together.   Good for him.  He will have too much in the gun though, but that really is a fine rifle.   Restored it will be quite fetching.   I would fix everything, including the lock and be proud to have it in my collection.

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2013, 09:59:56 PM »
The same guy got the stock as the barrel.  He is spending what he needs to to keep it together.   Good for him.  He will have too much in the gun though, but that really is a fine rifle.   Restored it will be quite fetching.   I would fix everything, including the lock and be proud to have it in my collection.

I agree.  but somebody didn't.  now i wonder if he even goes for the guard.
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2013, 10:03:37 PM »
What kind of person would take a part from someone who is obviously trying to keep the gun together?    A greedy person is the only thing I can think of.   

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2013, 10:04:52 PM »
What kind of person would take a part from someone who is obviously trying to keep the gun together?    A greedy person is the only thing I can think of.  
The second-place bidder on some other items...at some point it becomes a battle.   ::)

divided it falls...
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2013, 10:07:06 PM »
The guy that has the triggers now has the guard.   

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2013, 10:09:35 PM »
OK fellers- I'm going to take apart one of my old upper east Tennessee guns and put the parts on eBay!  I think it is a sure fire way to double your money and irritate everyone at the same time!  I think I'll start with a signed Bean flint gun..........

OK, maybe not!

I hope we get to see the restored gun.  The photos were excellent, so the buyer with have something to go by, even if he doesn't have all the parts.
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2013, 10:10:36 PM »
Darn... so now the gun gets separated, maybe forever... Yes it got more money on Ebay than it might have on Gunbroker or here, but that's shameful IMO.  
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2013, 10:12:25 PM »
Looks like it might get "restored" into two guns now.  I'm curious as heck as to what the lockplate is going to go for...  trainwreck, i'm trying to walk away. :o

triggers/guard guy walked away from lockplate.  bbl/stock guy got it.

phew.
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2013, 10:17:25 PM »
I had been the high bidder on the lock.   The first guy got it for 60.99.    I had bid $60 on the lock, triggers, and guard.

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2013, 10:18:40 PM »
Here is the damage:
The barrel went for $306.99.
The stock sold for $404.99.
Those fine Tennessee triggers went for $182.99.
The Guard went for $281.99.
The Lock went for $60.99.
The grand total is $1237.95
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2013, 10:18:53 PM »
I expect the second bidder will offer the triggers and guard to the first bidder at a profit.

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2013, 10:20:01 PM »
That total is probably about what the gun is worth restored.

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2013, 10:22:07 PM »
I understand why the parts were separated and offered on ebay, but it seems just evil to me to do that. >:(

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2013, 10:32:10 PM »
Well, I was trying to keep everything all together.

I got the stock, barrel and funky lock. I bid what I considered a outrageous amount on the triggers and guard, but got beat out...  :o

I'd liked to have those parts too. I do have a set of almost identical triggers, but will need to do something about the guard... Maybe find someone to make me one.

John

 
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2013, 10:32:36 PM »
Well, it actually brought more than I expected and I am glad he got it and hope he can somehow get the triggers. Sure makes me want to part a couple of mine out!!

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The barrel went for $306.99.
The stock sold for $404.99.
Those fine Tennessee triggers went for $182.99.
The Guard went for $281.99.
The Lock went for $60.99.
The grand total is $1237.95

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That total is probably about what the gun is worth restored.
I agree and if he pays someone to restore it I can't imagine what the total cost would be. But maybe he knows something we don't! Its still a neat looking rifle and I would love to know the story behind it.
Dennis
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2013, 10:37:13 PM »
Well, I was trying to keep everything all together.

I'd liked to have those parts too. I do have a set of almost identical triggers, but will need to do something about the guard... Maybe find someone to make me one.

John

Nice of you to try to keep the gun together John.  I'd recommend getting in touch with Ian Pratt about the triggerguard - with the photos there it should be relatively straightforward.
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2013, 11:14:34 PM »
Thanks Eric, and I'll copy the pictures of the trigger guard, and the triggers as well.

Where the wood is broken off from the forearm, I think I'll make a repair that looks like the original piece was broken off, then glued or stapled back on without taking care to try to really hide the crack. That way the stock will be whole again, and stronger, and maybe holding closer to originality...

Since the stock doesn't/didn't have a butt plate, am I correct in assuming that it wouldn't likely have a nose cap either?

The butt stock area has really pleasing architecture, and I wish the seller would have sold it all in one piece. Probably the best that's going to happen now is that the barrel and stock will remain together, with replacement triggers and TG.

Since whoever bought the triggers and guard way over paid for those parts, I assume he has a strong need for them, and that they'll be put to some good use and not just tossed in a drawer.

I'm sure the seller is grinning (I would be) and I doubt that I'll do something like this again,

John
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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2013, 12:01:22 AM »
John,I wish you cou;d have got it all.,too.Just for giggles,I bid 60.00 on guard a while back,hah,what a laff,auto bid did me in.Expected as much.I cant believe what the trigs and guard went for,either,but they were some kind of spiffy parts.Whatcha gonna do about that po ol lock?Good luck,Dave

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2013, 03:21:38 AM »
John,

Because you stuck your neck out,  I will stick mine out a little.   If you send me the rough dimensions of the guard from the stock,  I will make the rough finished guard for you for free.   You will just have to finish file it and fit it to the gun.   I already saved photos of all the parts.   I wish I could replace the triggers for you and fix the lock, but I just don't have the time.   It should take less than two hours to make the guard.   

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2013, 03:27:48 AM »
Mark,could you send me pic of triggers,I have an older unused set that might be close.I didnt save this auction,much to my dismay.Dave

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2013, 03:54:39 AM »
PM sent with photos.

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2013, 04:11:56 AM »
I gave him a little not-quite-nasty-but-not-chummy message.  

Yeah.  I can fix that!  

well, maybe not that lock.  i notice that the stock/bbl high bidder has zero bids on the trigger and guard.  divided they fall.

Hey Wade,I read your note to him with much good ol southern humor,I know he caint hep it.lol.You shure have a way with words.Dave

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Re: souther mountain rifle parts on Ebay
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2013, 07:34:30 AM »
Hey, oh that got published? I didn't expect that. Thanks.

Anyway, heckfire it all works out. Congrats John, i dig those muzzle-decorated bbls (and the un-busted wrist).  Interested to see it "all" together.  

Thanks to Mark for contributing.
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