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mr flintlock lube
« on: January 16, 2014, 05:39:24 AM »
if i have a pre cut 50 cal. patch how much lube should you use if you wet patch when loading for hunting and leave it loaded is it ok. i wet a patch  and checked it an hour later it was dry.

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 06:03:48 AM »
it depends on the lube. ive always used a greasy type lube, most recently mink oil from TOTW which is actually a grease consistency. ive left it in for a week or two during hunting season, never had a problem. the patches I retrieved after shooting all looked fine

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 06:05:18 AM »
oooppss, should have read this better ::)   ive no experience with that lube

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 05:11:39 PM »
if i have a pre cut 50 cal. patch how much lube should you use if you wet patch when loading for hunting and leave it loaded is it ok. i wet a patch  and checked it an hour later it was dry.

There is a current topic going on now titled "TOW mink oil patch lube" that you should read all the way through.  As you'll see, grease based lubes are what are generally used for hunting rather than a wet patch.  Wet patches aren't well suited for hunting.   

I just ordered a case of Mr. Flintlock's Patch Lube from George yesterday for personal range use and for prizes in shoots I organize.  I used its predecessor, Lehigh Valley Lube, for years and loved it for range work but never used it for hunting.
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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 11:28:47 AM »
with mr flintlocks lube, i soak the patch and then with my thumb and indez finger i squeeze out the excess lube and then load up.

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 12:50:47 PM »
with mr flintlocks lube, i soak the patch and then with my thumb and indez finger i squeeze out the excess lube and then load up.

yep. I do the same. put about a dozen patches in a small tin and get them good and wet. When I load I just squeeze the bulk of it out and load.
On a side note. One of my concerns about a lube is using it during cold weather and having it freeze to the barrel. I put some of Mr. Flintlock on some cloth ticking and stuck it in the freezer. I forgot about it for 3 weeks and when I got it out the other day the cloth was still very flexible and it was not frozen. It was in the freezer for at least 3 weeks.
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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 06:45:06 PM »
if i have a pre cut 50 cal. patch how much lube should you use if you wet patch when loading for hunting and leave it loaded is it ok. i wet a patch  and checked it an hour later it was dry.

If the lube evaporated its likely water based. For remaining loaded for extended time like more than a few minutes,  its best to use something you KNOW has no water content. Unsalted tallow is one and a natural organic oil like PURE Neatsfoot oil is another. I think TOW's Mink Oil is good too. Jojoba oil is chemically similar to Sperm Whale oil.  Olive oil is supposed to be good. All the over the counter ML goos are suspect in my mind.
Oil lubes even with a pretty wet patch will not wet the powder to a great extent. Some the the oil is deposited on the barrel walls during loading which drys the patch somewhat. However, if stored vertical the oil will tend to migrate to the patch and through it perhaps.
So over oiling is not a good idea. I would prefer to use a tallow lube.

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2014, 04:56:52 AM »
Mr. Flintlock's Lube has alcohol in it. That evaporated off, I do not add water to the lube.



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yep. I do the same. put about a dozen patches in a small tin and get them good and wet. When I load I just squeeze the bulk of it out and load.
On a side note. One of my concerns about a lube is using it during cold weather and having it freeze to the barrel. I put some of Mr. Flintlock on some cloth ticking and stuck it in the freezer. I forgot about it for 3 weeks and when I got it out the other day the cloth was still very flexible and it was not frozen. It was in the freezer for at least 3 weeks.
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That doesn't happen with water based lubes.

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2014, 09:27:20 PM »
What I found with the original LHValley lube, was that over time - it's carriers evaporated and the lube lost it's ability to wet the fouling- ie; dry patches don't work for me.  For hunting, I use pure Neestfoot Oil , or Track's Mink oil, which is a grease. They remain good all hunting season if need be.

There is no doubt, that LHV gave me my best, easiest loading and most consistent accuracy for target shooting - paper and trail walks - but for me, it was not a hunting lube.  I also found it demanded a substantial increase in powder charge and velocity to shoot as well or better than water based lubes.  I assume that was due to it's extreme lubricity. More powder was required to get the pressure up high enough to produce even pressures and thus speeds, resulting in improved accuracy. theory
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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2014, 05:30:39 AM »
On my first test shoot with Mr Flintlock lube..
my poi dropped  dead center 4"' with the same load. 32 cal. at 50 yards.
compared to my existing lube.
Will bump up the powder load next session.

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2014, 05:55:22 AM »
I received this email today with a picture of a three shot one hole group, that was all in the ten ring. Well maybe one is a nine.

Hi George:
 
We just spoke for 10 minutes or so by phone...
 
I'm the guy from Hollis who just tried your patch lube in my T/C Hawken, and attached is a picture of the group I shot yesterday with it.  OK, I'll admit that it was only shot at 25 yards...
 
But this was for 3-shots, loaded from a pouch (no bench or table), shot offhand, after being at the outside range for over an hour already messing around with an old Euroarms "flinchlock" (but that's a story for another day).  The range conditions were a balmy 17 degrees F, with a gusty 20 to 25 mph wind.  So yes, it was really c-c-c-cold by the time I shot those for group...  But I figured if I could load and shoot well in those conditions, then it would help prepare me for the upcoming Primitive Biathlon in Dalton NH.  The load was a 0.495" ball with a 0.015" patch, over 90 gr of 777 3F powder, and lubed with "Mr. Flintlock's" patch lube -- which is a great product.
 
Thanks for taking my call and for making an awesome product.  I can't wait to see what that load will do at 50 or 100 yards -- when it is warmer out!
 
Tight groups!
 
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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2014, 06:41:11 AM »
Nice!

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2014, 10:39:58 PM »
Thanks to all of you who purchased lube from me. For everyone's information, Mr. Flintlock's patch Lube And Bore Cleaner can now be purchased at Dixons and the Log Cabin Shop if your going by it will save you on the shipping. I will also be at Friendship in June and possibly Dixons for the Gunmaker's Fair.

If anyone has a shop near them that they think would be interested in stocking it. I would appreciate the contact info.

Thanks for your business.

George

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Re: mr flintlock lube
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2014, 04:08:49 AM »
Looking forward to getting some Mr. FLINTLOCK'S....just used my last drop of Lehigh Valley Lube and very thankful you are making this again.