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Offline Acer Saccharum

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Beastie rifle
« on: January 25, 2014, 04:52:31 AM »
Gun of unknown origin. Very strong Germanic flavor. Probably 1750's. I don't know the country of origin, suspecting it is American, but hard to tell, with such strong European features.

Maple from my neighbor's farm, aqua fortis, w mahogany stain to redden it up some. Lightly distressed and aged.

Davis DST, Davis 'Jaeger Lock' with 'Colonial' cock.

35" Getz .60 cal barrel. Not fired yet. Should be a rocker.











Lock is the Davis Jaeger lock, with Colonial cock. Plate groove welded up, and plate round faced, with moulded edge. Octagonal pan made into a round. Cock rounded as well.


Box inspired by the 'Musician's Rifle'(aka Fessler). Maybe made when brass boxes were first being developed.Latch catches in a chiseled groove in the buttplate.




Hardware is replicated from original hardware, which came from a gun of likewise unknown origin.



You like?

Thanks for looking.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2024, 04:18:03 AM by rich pierce »
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2014, 05:30:23 AM »
NICE!! Love the carving and the finish!

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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2014, 05:36:22 AM »
I think because of the blue background, the gun looks redder in photos than in life.
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 06:04:12 AM »
Nice to see you're finally learning how to build an exceptable rifle.
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 06:07:49 AM »
Thank you kindly, Mike.
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 06:10:35 AM »
You are welcome. I wouldn't be ashamed to put my name on something like that.... :P
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 06:40:57 AM »
Nice Tom , look forward to visiting with it next week ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mitch

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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 06:49:57 AM »
One word, straight from New England... WICKED!  So nice to see how this came together, a really fun rifle to look at.  Can't wait to see it next week!
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 07:10:52 AM »
Nice.

Dan
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2014, 09:05:26 AM »
Love the incredibly complex box release (which they often were). Could easily be American if the furniture was borrowed. Very cool rifle and original.

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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2014, 09:08:44 AM »
Wonderful rifle Tom.  I see it as a culmination of your longrifle experience to this date.  It makes a very strong statement with much vigour and authority.  This is a great hunting rifle.  Bring it North, and we'll introduce her to Bulwinkle.
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2014, 12:02:36 PM »
Details, details, details.  Looks like you nailed all of them.

"I think because of the blue background, the gun looks redder in photos than in life."  Maybe you should try the photos on purple carpet.
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2014, 02:00:21 PM »
Awesome! Very nice build indeed. Must have been quite a challenge but you pass with flying colours.
Thumbs up from Norwegian novice :)

Tor
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2014, 02:36:37 PM »
Me like very much ;D
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2014, 03:36:52 PM »
 A beauty, very well done.

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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2014, 04:08:17 PM »
Delight-ful.  One to turn over and over in the hands, noticing something new each time.
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2014, 04:12:51 PM »
Oh man, what a hoot! Love the batch box.

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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2014, 04:34:10 PM »
Nice rifle, well made, am sure the squirrels around your area are in fear of their life  :D
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2014, 04:46:51 PM »
I like it a LOT! Another good one Acer with that Euro touch. I just noticed your PB mechanism has a lot in common with that New England rifle that was revived recently over on the Antiques side of the forum. Very complex for what it does, but I just love a good puzzle. Even for the gunsmiths of old I'm sure they did these things just to show off a bit.   ;D 
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2014, 04:51:01 PM »
I assume you did the sculpting on the t-guard bow and the buttplate?
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2014, 05:08:30 PM »
Mike, I wish you would slow down.

I replicated the hardware. A friend lent me antique hardware off his gun. I made rubber molds, and then waxes from the molds, and sent the waxes off to the foundry. So the hardware is new, so I did not sculpt it.

If I was starting from scratch, I think I'd still be making the hardware.....

The original stuff was cast, so there must have been patterns. What did they use for a master? What did they use for a mold? Maybe someone here knows how this stuff was done. Lost wax, or sandcast, I can't say how the originals were done.
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2014, 05:10:50 PM »
Tom; I like. AJ
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2014, 05:40:00 PM »
That's my new favorite gun.  Love everything about it.  I have a nice 36" Getz that I would love to turn into an early rifle.  That rifle sure gives me some inspiration.
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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2014, 05:55:49 PM »
Tom, Nice to see this completed, you've been teasing us for far too long. I like the whole idea of 1750 fantasy guns, with so little extant examples it sort of frees up room for creativity. This build certainly has that. Love the trigger guard finials, patchbox and buttplate. Rich said it well, something special at every angle.

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Re: Beastie rifle
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2014, 07:01:18 PM »
Nice, definitely a step above a stake for the zuchinni plants in the garden.   ;)

Really like the patchbox mechanism, that's pretty slick.
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