Author Topic: National Road rifle  (Read 14200 times)

Offline B Shipman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1928
    • W.G. Shipman Gunmaker
National Road rifle
« on: February 07, 2014, 07:14:05 AM »
This is a rifle that might have been made in western PA or into Ohio along the National Road, the nations first interstate, about 1830.












Offline smylee grouch

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7907
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2014, 07:29:45 AM »
Wow, again you make  us smile with your tallent. Very nice. Top shelf for sure.

Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

  • Member 3
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12671
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2014, 08:43:47 AM »
Holy snappin' arseholes Bill.  What a piece of work!!  Forgive my use of the vernacular...have to blame that on the Jamison's.

Totally beautiful..must look at it again in the morning light.  Great rifle.
D. Taylor Sapergia
www.sapergia.blogspot.com

Art is not an object.  It is the excitement inspired by the object.

Offline Curtis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2338
  • Missouri
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2014, 10:52:11 AM »
You really do amazing work Bill.

Curtis
Curtis Allinson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sometimes, late at night when I am alone in the inner sanctum of my workshop and no one else can see, I sand things using only my fingers for backing

Offline Gene Carrell

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 522
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2014, 12:36:27 PM »
High art at its finest.
Gene

Offline wattlebuster

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2088
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2014, 01:15:05 PM »
Beautiful she is 8)
Nothing beats the feel of a handmade southern iron mounted flintlock on a cold frosty morning

Offline KLMoors

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 859
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2014, 01:57:32 PM »
Yikes! 

Offline Rolf

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1764
  • There's more than one way to skin a cat.
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2014, 02:02:57 PM »
That is awesome!!!! What buttplate, triggerguard and barrel did you use?
Could you tell us a little about th carving on the cheek piece?

Best regards
Rolf

oldfox

  • Guest
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2014, 02:19:34 PM »
Wow!   That is truly a work of art!  Beautiful workmanship

Offline C Wallingford

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 863
  • Northern Kentucky
    • CW Knives
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2014, 02:28:47 PM »
Fantastic, Bill.  You do turn out some beautiful work!

Offline Lucky R A

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1628
  • In Costume
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2014, 03:01:43 PM »
Hi Bill,
     Sorry I didn't get to talk more at Lewisburg, but good to see you.  That is one of my favorite style of guns.  I see that ole John Fleeger had a bit of influence on that one. 
It seems to get harder and harder to get correct hardware for that school.  You did a really nice job on that one and did great photography of the end project.  I think the Western PA school is one of the least appreciated schools of building out there.  They are beautiful, great handling and a pleasure to shoot.

Ron
"The highest reward that God gives us for good work is the ability to do better work."  - Elbert Hubbard

Offline Osprey

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1355
  • Roaming Delmarva...
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2014, 03:10:16 PM »
Outstanding.  I love to see good gunmakers do the later style guns, they don't get enough attention.
"Any gun built is incomplete until it takes game!"

Offline Tom Currie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1294
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2014, 03:14:53 PM »
Bill, Beautiful work as always. That's quite an effort. The patchbox alone's got my head spinning.

Offline Shreckmeister

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3808
  • GGGG Grandpa Schrecengost Gunsmith/Miller
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2014, 03:34:37 PM »
Now that's a great rifle from the true Golden Age :D  Glad to see Bill pay homage to Western PA...after all
they were just practicing out east to finally get it right out here.  What a great rifle.
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

Offline tallbear

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4053
  • Mitch Yates
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2014, 03:44:10 PM »
Great work as always Bill,you know I'm a fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mitch

Offline Tim Crosby

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 18385
  • AKA TimBuckII
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2014, 03:50:07 PM »
 Amazing, Beautiful work.

  Tim C.

cahil_2

  • Guest
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2014, 04:21:30 PM »
Beautiful rifle!  Is it legal to shoot a rifle that purty.

Offline Acer Saccharum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19311
    • Thomas  A Curran
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2014, 04:48:33 PM »
The pictures don't do this gun justice. You want to look everything over on this rifle; can't do that here. I saw this baby at Lewisburg, and I am truly impressed by everything on it, everything.

The engraving is just right. It's hand done, and done well. It's just right for a Kentucky.

Bill's inlay work needs to be seen in person. It's flawless to my eye.

Below all the silver and carving is the form of the rifle, and Bill really nailed it.

Thanks, Bill.


by the way, your photography is really good. But I want more!
Tom Curran's web site : http://monstermachineshop.net
Ramrod scrapers are all sold out.

Offline Don Getz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6853
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2014, 04:55:44 PM »
Billy.........you have way too much time on your hands.  No good way to describe it.   I was looking at the close up of the
patch box.   I saw one screw in the very front lobe, another near the hinge......could only see these two.   Could not see any
pins or nails, how in the heck did you hold it into the stock?.........Don

Mike R

  • Guest
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2014, 05:13:14 PM »
as expected from you: flawless!  Very pretty rifle.

Offline Acer Saccharum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19311
    • Thomas  A Curran
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2014, 05:13:58 PM »
Don, those are trade secrets.
Tom Curran's web site : http://monstermachineshop.net
Ramrod scrapers are all sold out.

Offline Majorjoel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3138
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2014, 05:17:11 PM »
Bill Fleeger Morton Kettering Shipman! Zowie! Fresh out of the Monongabela Valley. I guess it's easier just to call it a "National Road" PB. You sure nailed down another good un Bill.  Very well done!
Joel Hall

Offline Shreckmeister

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3808
  • GGGG Grandpa Schrecengost Gunsmith/Miller
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2014, 05:34:41 PM »
Am I seeing things or is the silver eagle on the cheek surrounded by a brass ring.
If so, it's so well done it looks like one piece of metal.  Amazing.
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

Offline okawbow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 911
  • West Tennessee/ Southern Illinois
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2014, 05:44:20 PM »
I live in Vandalia, IL, the end of the National road. It's only right that "The National Road Rifle" should travel along the National Road to its end, and come to my house ;)
As in life; it’s the journey, not the destination. How you get there matters most.

Offline Mark Elliott

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5191
    • Mark Elliott  Artist & Craftsman
Re: National Road rifle
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2014, 06:56:50 PM »
Wow!   A true work of art.   I really wish high resolution photos were available.    I find myself wanting to look this gun over in detail.   I know there is a lot that we can't see in these pics.  I particularly like how the cheek piece flows into the carving and then how the carving moves out of the plane of the area behind the cheek.