Author Topic: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)  (Read 8962 times)

Offline Rolf

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Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« on: March 07, 2014, 08:59:47 PM »
I finished inleting my first buttplate. A job I've been really afraid to make a mess of.  It was a pleasent experience that took about 3 hours.
No visible gaps anywhere and I have not peened the plate. The main credit for this goes to the Liogier cabinet rasp , stitching 9. When going across the grain it beat the Nicholsen 49 rasp hands down. The Nicholsen is lighter, narrower and not as sharp. This gives it a tendency to wobble and give a rounded surface. It was much easier to get a precise curve with a flat surface with the Liogier. This surprised me. When I earlier compared the two rasps going with the grain and against the grain, I found both rasps to be about equal.
I got to order some more of those rasps!!

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Rolf





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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 09:15:05 PM »
Nice work!
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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 09:50:40 PM »
Rolf; Great job, looks gooood.AJ
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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 09:51:55 PM »
It looks as tight as if it grew there.

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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014, 10:42:10 PM »
Nice fit.  Sometimes the work flows well for me and things go together quickly and the finished product is good.  On other days, it seems like the rifle fights me all the way, and I usually change jobs or walk away until another day.  However, I am always enjoy looking at the work I have completed and it keeps me building the next rifle. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2014, 12:20:35 AM »
Great work, Rolf.  You always do great work.  Please tell me which cabinet makers file you have.  I went to the Liogier site and was overwhelmed by choices.  Thrilled that they can stitch one for us lefties.

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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2014, 12:52:40 AM »
 Rolf, quit teasing us and show us the rest of the rifle, I'm always ready to look at a nice piece of wood  ;D.

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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2014, 04:19:23 AM »
I got my rasps from Liogier a couple of weeks ago and I LOVE them too!  In addition to the Gunsmiths and a #49 style rasp I also ordered a very coarse (#3 I think) large one and I think my scrub plane will be gathering some dust now.

I wish he made files!    (hint hint Noel)

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2014, 05:34:01 AM »
Rolf, looks as though it grew there.   :o  Tim

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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 12:17:12 PM »
Great work, Rolf.  You always do great work.  Please tell me which cabinet makers file you have.  I went to the Liogier site and was overwhelmed by choices.  Thrilled that they can stitch one for us lefties.

I have the 10"cabinet rasp, stitching grain 9, left handed, tradtional range. I'm thinking of buying a 12" cabinet rasp, stitching grain 6 for bulk removel of wood.  http://www.hand-stitched-rasp-riffler.com/tradition/woodworking/rasps/fauteuil.html

A Gunsmith rasp stitchiing 9# would be great for shaping the cheek piece and for pistol stocks.
http://www.hand-stitched-rasp-riffler.com/tradition/woodworking/rasps/armurier.html

A number 6 riffler , stitching grain 12 would nice for cleaning up carving back grounds.
http://www.hand-stitched-rasp-riffler.com/tradition/woodworking/rifflers-for-wood/rifloir-a-bois-n-6.html



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Rolf

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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2014, 12:29:26 PM »
Rolf, quit teasing us and show us the rest of the rifle, I'm always ready to look at a nice piece of wood  ;D.

It's a grade 6, red maple blank from dunlap. Barrel inlet and rr channel by Fred Miller. The pictures really don't show the figure well.
Dunlap vouched it nice and hard, and should carve as well as sugar maple. I have a grade 7 blank from Dunlap, thats collecting dust. Plan to use it for a Fleeger style rifle. It's a beautiful blank, but I honestly can't see any difference between the grad 6 and 7 blank.







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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2014, 09:41:06 PM »
I picked up a very nice grade 4 "dense" blank from Dunlaps a few years ago at Friendship. I almost ruined it on my bandsaw. Had to do a glued repair that should be unnoticable when finished. My blank should be quite nice looking when done.

I don't know how they differentiat between grades 4-7
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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2014, 12:45:40 AM »
Just an observation...

On my last several guns, it seems I've used more gouges and less of the cabinet maker's rasp for the final butt plate fitting.  Mostly number 3, 5, and 7 gouges, cutting sideways across the grain.

The end result leaves a swell of wood in the center corresponding to the hollow of the under side of the butt plate, which seems to help seat the butt plate. 

It's by no means a exact fit in center of the plate but it seems to help it find its proper position.

Jeff
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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2014, 04:27:00 AM »
  Rolf; I like your butt plate, what's the school and where did you get it

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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2014, 05:40:01 AM »
My secret weapon for no gaps in a butt piece inlet is a 1lb ball pien hammer.  ;D     To quote my grandfather, the machinist;  "hit it boy,  hit it if it kills you."   LOL.....  Actually,  he said that is what the old blacksmith told him as a young apprentice.  :D
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2014, 09:09:02 PM »
I got my rasps from Liogier a couple of weeks ago and I LOVE them too!  In addition to the Gunsmiths and a #49 style rasp I also ordered a very coarse (#3 I think) large one and I think my scrub plane will be gathering some dust now.

I wish he made files!    (hint hint Noel)

Yup Shane, got it. Files are on my "to do list", especially sharpening files as many customers have asked me for. But regarding production, files are a different world from rasps, so it will take time

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 12:05:46 AM »
Great work, Rolf.  You always do great work.  Please tell me which cabinet makers file you have.  I went to the Liogier site and was overwhelmed by choices.  Thrilled that they can stitch one for us lefties.

I have the 10"cabinet rasp, stitching grain 9, left handed, tradtional range. I'm thinking of buying a 12" cabinet rasp, stitching grain 6 for bulk removel of wood.  http://www.hand-stitched-rasp-riffler.com/tradition/woodworking/rasps/fauteuil.html

A Gunsmith rasp stitchiing 9# would be great for shaping the cheek piece and for pistol stocks.
http://www.hand-stitched-rasp-riffler.com/tradition/woodworking/rasps/armurier.html

A number 6 riffler , stitching grain 12 would nice for cleaning up carving back grounds.
http://www.hand-stitched-rasp-riffler.com/tradition/woodworking/rifflers-for-wood/rifloir-a-bois-n-6.html

Thanks for the info, Rolf.  I shall gather up some $$.



Best regards
Rolf

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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 09:34:04 PM »
109 bucks.....i WANT some...but the $$$  :o

someday~
i have my favorites, but want a cabinet rasp#9....!

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Re: Look ma, No GAPS!!!!! (I love my liogier cabinet rasp)
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2014, 12:04:28 AM »
109 bucks.....i WANT some...but the $$$  :o

someday~
i have my favorites, but want a cabinet rasp#9....!

Kaintuck, I certainly understand the sticker shock. HOWEVER! I have learned over the past few years that when it comes to woodworking tools, usually the more it cost; the higher the quality, the higher the quality; the easier it is to get good results.

AND every now and then, you find diamonds in the rough that are cheap and work good.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2014, 01:41:03 PM »
Oh....I agree! I need rasps and files always.....bucket list:

#1 great rasp set
#Shelbys book on Kentuck rifles

Now to find 500.00 laying around.... ::)