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Offline gumboman

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Auriou rasp
« on: March 17, 2014, 02:50:27 PM »
Has anyone used the Auriou rasps for shaping gun stocks. I am considering buying a 12 inch #3 or #4 stitch for roughing in gun stocks from a blank. They are expensive so would like some feedback from those who have used them before making the investment.
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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 04:00:52 PM »
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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 07:31:21 PM »
Has anyone used the Auriou rasps for shaping gun stocks. I am considering buying a 12 inch #3 or #4 stitch for roughing in gun stocks from a blank. They are expensive so would like some feedback from those who have used them before making the investment.
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I haven't used the Auriou but I have 3 from Liogier and I love them. You really can feel the difference over the Nicholsons. I'm sure the Aurious are just as good but Liogier actively sought out our business and listened to our input.  ;)

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 07:58:33 PM »
I have two Auriou rasp a 9 and a 13 .I still do most of the grunt work with a 49 Nicholson and then finish with these being carful to stay away from the buttplate or other brass.I am careful not to lay the on my bench where they could be hit by other tools.I have been using them for a couple of years and expect with careful use to get many more years of service from them making the cost inconsequential.

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 08:07:09 PM »
There is nothing like a hand cut rasp for hard maple, in my opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2014, 08:59:53 PM »
I got one of the Auriou modelers rasps in 10 grain for detailing especially in tighter curved areas...cuts smooth as all get out on maple. Also have several Austrian made hand stitched rasps of the 6-10 inch range of lower grain for coarser shaping... they work great and are a bit less $$ than the Auriou...been really happy with them...got them from Traditional Woodworker http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/Patternmakers-Rasps-Hand-Cut-in-Austria/products/240/
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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 09:57:17 PM »
I have a couple of them and they are so far superior to most common rasps it's hard to explain. Be very careful to never let them touch anything metal and you will go " Wow"!!! Like most people do when they first try one compared to most steps. That said, I do still occasionally grab for my #49 & #50.
Honestly, scrapers & spoke shaves do most of my work.
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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 10:04:06 PM »
I purchased a few Liogiers.  Outstanding tools, and make stock shaping a pleasure.

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2014, 12:55:56 AM »
Thanks for the feedback from all. Consensus seems to be the rasps are worth the investment. Ordered 2 today.

Darrin, do you use the spoke shave for removing material from the stock blank during the shaping process? Can you use if for forearm shaping as well as the butt stock? I considered getting one of them for the bulk removal of wood during the early stage of shaping but opted to go with the rasp instead.

Might be something I will do later.

I wonder if there is a tutorial on stock shaping using a spoke shave on the forum.

Regards to all.

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 04:06:04 AM »
Thanks for the feedback from all. Consensus seems to be the rasps are worth the investment. Ordered 2 today.

Darrin, do you use the spoke shave for removing material from the stock blank during the shaping process? Can you use if for forearm shaping as well as the butt stock? I considered getting one of them for the bulk removal of wood during the early stage of shaping but opted to go with the rasp instead.

Might be something I will do later.

I wonder if there is a tutorial on stock shaping using a spoke shave on the forum.

Regards to all.

It would be worth the investment in time to get a book and learn how to make wooden krenov style planes. Once you get the hang of adjusting and using them it works very well.

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 05:52:21 AM »
I do use use spoke shaves for a whole lot of material removal. Usually, the order of tools I use (after the band saw of course) is, draw knife, scrub plane, spoke shaves & scrapers. Rasps I use here and there in between the spoke shaves & scrapers. I have even considered getting that big'ol coopers spoke shave " Traditional Woodworker" sells. That looks like one fine efficient tool.
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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2014, 02:05:11 PM »
I would like to get one....seems the cheek area blend would lots nicer to have one.....I just need to work up the nerve to go rob a bank to buy one.....do you guys think a bank or loan office would have more Money in them at lunchtime? ???

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2014, 03:04:43 PM »
No question, the hand-stitched rasps are in a league of their own.
That said,  there is a relatively new item on the market called the' Iwasaki carving file', which is kind of unique and also very effective.  These tools cut [like a plane], rather than tear the wood, leaving a surprisingly smooth finish.  They are milled, acid-etched tools, with an incredible bite.  I've got a set [flat and half round, fine cut] on the bench now.  The half round is a dream to use, the flat requires more of a 'learning curve' [more tooth in contact with the material, I guess], but once the 'touch' is acquired, the shavings fly.  I can't imagine what the course cut would do.
Well made, competitively priced.

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2014, 03:41:38 PM »
No question, the hand-stitched rasps are in a league of their own.
That said,  there is a relatively new item on the market called the' Iwasaki carving file', which is kind of unique and also very effective.  These tools cut [like a plane], rather than tear the wood, leaving a surprisingly smooth finish.  They are milled, acid-etched tools, with an incredible bite.  I've got a set [flat and half round, fine cut] on the bench now.  The half round is a dream to use, the flat requires more of a 'learning curve' [more tooth in contact with the material, I guess], but once the 'touch' is acquired, the shavings fly.  I can't imagine what the course cut would do.
Well made, competitively priced.

Longshot,

Are these the 150mm or 200mm size?  I see they also offer a curved version that looks intriguing.

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2014, 06:19:48 PM »
I bought the 150mm, which were sold as a set [Highland].  Different outlets, different offerings.   Suppliers to the Luthier trade seem to carry a pretty broad assortment of them.

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2014, 08:26:14 PM »
I have several Auriou rasps and I find them mainly to have an advantage in the finer grain sizes.  One of my favorite tools is a 10" Auriou rasp in 9 grain.  I have several coarser rasps (#3 and #6 grain) but prefer to just use some coarse machine made rasps I've had for some time.  If edged tools are used, the #9 grain can work well to refine things after bulk wood removal.  It cuts fast and leaves a nice finish.  They do go dull after time, though.  I sent mine out to be re-sharpened and it works very well again.

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2014, 10:16:32 PM »
In hard wood, the finer grains are quite fast cutting, and do not score the wood deeply.
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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2014, 11:48:10 PM »
Ordered a 12" #4 stitch and a 12" #10 stitch. They were in stock at Lee-Nielson. They cut great. The #4 takes a lot of wood off really fast. The #10 also cuts fast but leaves a finer cleaner finish. Love the large handles. The long length really allows for an effective power stroke. Based on my limited use so far, I think they will be worth the investment.

My Nicholson #49 cuts good also but nothing close to these wide and long rasps. I think the Nicholson might have an advantage for small tight spaces compared to the wide Auriou. Will find out as my current project progresses.

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Re: Auriou rasp
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2014, 01:50:41 AM »
The Iwasaki that impresses me most is the 10" medium cut flat.  It really removes the wood if you can apply the pressure .  Also like the Fine and extra fine 200MM.  The 150mm half round I also bought to do work around the buttplate and the ends of the lock and side plate flats.  The 150 is a little short is my only complaint.