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jrbaker90

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tradition Kentucky long rifle
« on: April 01, 2014, 10:44:32 PM »
I been thinking about building a tradition ky long one part at a time. I saw another guy was rebuilding one from a percussion to a flintlock and he used a full stock not the two piece that is with it. jus kind of thinking and weighing my option thanks

Offline Dave B

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Re: tradition Kentucky long rifle
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2014, 05:19:35 AM »
The Traditions kits are a great way to get your feet wet as it were. Stocking one up from scratch is a lot of work if you have never built one before. I am not sure if some one is offering a precarve that the parts can be used in building up a full stock rifle from. I have built several of the kits (CVA) way back when and modified them to make them a little more "Correct" but you still have a heavily modified Traditions Kit. If money is the big issue. Build what you like and enjoy it. A word of caution how ever. It is addictive and you will not be able to stop
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Re: tradition Kentucky long rifle
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2014, 05:26:13 AM »
one part at a time.
I don't get that part, what-a-ya mean?

I know of the flintlock conversion build your speaking of.
Personally I think it's a lot of time and energy spent on something that could be better done with other parts completely. I don't see what or why the guy's doing it,, but to each his own.

Why purchase then rebuild a kit when other kit's are available that may well be better suited to what your after to begin with??

There really is no way to mask a Traditions Kentucky, the CVA Kentucky or an old Jukar, and if I had my druthers I'd choose the Jukar for that slow twist barrel they made.

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Re: tradition Kentucky long rifle
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2014, 02:39:11 PM »
 The Traditions  rifle is the  virtually the same as a CVA or Jukar .
 They are also a slow twist barrel  in 1 in 66 .
 I would also agree that’s   building a modified one is a great way to get your feet wet  .
As to why ?? Why not , if that’s what a person wants to do , they understand what needs to be done  and is willing to pay the cost or  put in the time , then 2 thumbs up .
  Now that being said  you should at the very least , if your going to do the conversion ,  pay the cost and change out the lock  to one of better quality .
 It would also be much simpler to just start with a flintlock barrel . But the conversion from cap to flint isn’t that hard
 When it comes to the full stock  vs. the two piece stock  . Most any of the stock manufactures can provide you any stock your wanting  inlet for the size of barrel you have . So that’s not any real  issue . But know that those stocks are not drop in  type stocks , your going to have to do the build . but they will also need to be scaled down IMO

As to what it will look like , well I have done many restocks and conversions on CVA , Jukar and traditions rifles ,  through the years . Biggest issue with the looks is the  length of the barrel .  At 32 inchs , they work better for a half stock IMO . But  if your building a  smaller youth type rifle then  they work reasonably well as long as everything else is proportioned down  . Along with that  you will need to  do everything you can so as to  give the impression of having a longer barrel .
also there is the issue with the tang . most times i reweld so as to get  a properly shaped tang or at least build a new standing breech  

 In the end , it doesn’t have to look  like or even be recognizable as a traditions gun . Unless one wants to get close enough to  read the barrel
 but also keep in mind that if you dont already own the gun or can pick one up  very cheep , by the time you put in the money for a new lock , stock  and the other items that you my decide you want , your at the bottom end of buying a complete parts asymbly  for a much nicer build





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Re: tradition Kentucky long rifle
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2014, 04:37:21 PM »
 Before you invest in a mass produced kit gun, talk to friends, relatives, and co-workers. One of them is likely to have one moldering away in the closet. I have helped several newbies get started this way. Quite often the old kit was given to the new owner. A lot can be learned by disassembling, and rebuilding a poorly assembled kit. Rarely do shooters starting out take enough wood off a kit gun to make it like the old ones, which is an advantage to the second owner. Check it out.

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jrbaker90

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Re: tradition Kentucky long rifle
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2014, 09:33:42 PM »
I have been looking for awhile I can't find anything but in lines nobody around here hunts or shoots sidelocks I'm going to keep a eye out I don't want to rush into anything. I have build a kit before I work with wood almost everyday but the reason I was thinking about the tradition is I'm not sure I can do the inlay work on a stock. My ky has been a really good gun I have enjoy building it and shooting it. I talk to tradition they have the flintlock barrel pretty reasonable I thought about going with the tradition lock and after a while go with a l&r they have one for the traditions. I'm just thinking and getting ideas thanks