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Offline Jerry V Lape

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Placing simple trigger pin?
« on: September 09, 2014, 06:15:01 AM »
Everytime I do one of these I struggle marking both sides so the pin is perpendicular vertically and horizontally.  How about some tips on how you do this? 

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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2014, 06:21:20 AM »
You need one of Dave Rase's drilling jig's to get your self all lined up then run the drill though perfectly at the place you want it to be.
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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2014, 06:50:02 AM »
I have a drlling jig similar to Dave's.  The jig only works if both sides of the rifle are marked correctly.  I have no trouble identifying the placement for the pin on the lock side.  The problems arise trying to accurately transfer or measure the exit point on the side plate side. 

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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 01:19:06 PM »
 Years back , I made up a small block  and a blade type locater .  Prior to that I used an old wood carpenters scribe
  But recently  if you look at the video done by fire lock , he made basically the same thing from an old sliding Square . Looks as if it would work fine for what your needing 


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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014, 03:16:42 PM »
For a drill press:
I cut my trigger slot first, then I slip a blade of steel in the slot, shim it up nice and solid, with 3" or 4" sticking out of the stock. This blade is long enough to put a level on in both directions, so I can set up to drill thru perpendicular to the trigger.
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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 03:58:35 PM »
I clamp the bbl/stock in a vise w/ the top bbl flat against the permanent jaw and put a parallel  under the assembly someplace towards the muzzle. The trigger is clamped onto the lock surround and the pivot hole is located and marked , trigger is removed and the hole is drilled. This is done in a drill press that has a sheet of reinforced plywood bolted to the DP table. .....Fred

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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 07:18:50 PM »
Jerry,
I have struggled with that for years, however, all the ones that were not perfect, still worked very well.
So I just eyeball em. The trigger pivot is within the lock inlet anyway, and usually comes out under the side plate. I level up the stock in my vise, then use the old Ryobi 18v with a bubble level, and I have yet to have one NOT work out.
I know it's not PC, and not very technical, but if believe I sometimes overthink things.
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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 07:21:30 PM »
Jerry,
I have struggled with that for years, however, all the ones that were not perfect, still worked very well.
So I just eyeball em. The trigger pivot is within the lock inlet anyway, and usually comes out under the side plate. I level up the stock in my vise, then use the old Ryobi 18v with a bubble level, and I have yet to have one NOT work out.
I know it's not PC, and not very technical, but if believe I sometimes overthink things.
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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 08:47:04 PM »
Thanks guys, lots of good suggestions.  I will try the drill press method.  Haven't been real proficient with that tool but it is time I figure it out once and for all. 

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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014, 10:36:11 PM »


Here's how I do it (sometimes).  I drill the pivot hole where I want it in the trigger, in this case 1/16" drill bit.  Then I clamp the trigger to the stock in the attitude I want, clamp the gun in the drill press vise or to the table of the drill press, square with the world, and drill the hole into the wood through the trigger.
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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2014, 10:38:07 PM »
Taylor, really, 'square with the world'!!!!!

Did your mama teach you to talk like that?
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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2014, 04:04:25 AM »
In this case, no, it was likely my dad.  I owe much to him.

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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2014, 03:14:14 PM »
I agree with Fred, Dane, Taylor,.....It isn't rocket science.   I've drilled a lot of them just eyeballed.   I used to use the vertical
mill until I watched Jim Chambers using a hand drill to do his underlug pin holes, it really isn't that difficult...........Don

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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2014, 05:06:59 PM »
I agree with Fred, Dane, Taylor,.....It isn't rocket science.   I've drilled a lot of them just eyeballed.  Don
I agree, Like I have always said, "The eye don't lie."
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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2014, 05:28:49 PM »
I agree with Fred, Dane, Taylor,.....It isn't rocket science.   I've drilled a lot of them just eyeballed.  Don
I agree, Like I have always said, "The eye don't lie."
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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2014, 06:39:28 PM »
I just completed one last week. Did it by eye, but I was paying attention when I cut the trigger slot and mortised the trigger slot on down with frequent test fittings. So I knew pretty exact where the hole would go, plus there is a bit of wiggle room but you have to be pretty close. I used a finger drill (1/16th) to make the pin hole. Its slow but you have complete control all the way down. You get'er started, go in just a bit until the drill will stand upright, check for vertical, adjust if necessary, and go on down. No sideplate on this rifle so the hole is blind, I chamfered the opening inside the lock mortise so the pin can be removed if needed but I don't believe it ever will. I use piano wire for a pin.

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Re: Placing simple trigger pin?
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2014, 02:02:17 AM »
Peter Alexander noted that most sideplate flats were parallel to the bore rather than the barrel. Perhaps this is one reason why?