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magyar

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taking the shine back a bit....
« on: November 29, 2014, 05:23:44 PM »
I just started putting the Danish oil to my curly maple stock. Great looking stuff and it has reAlly made the curl pop out. This is just the first coat and I need to rub it back I assume to prep for the next coats. Probably 2 or 3??

I would like to have some suggestions on rubbing it back between coats: with what and how to some of you do this? And secondly, I can see its going to be a good bit more shiny than I prefer. What are some methods for getting Danish oil back to a nice satin finish?

Thanks all. As soon as I am done I will post pics. This forum has been amazing help!

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Re: taking the shine back a bit....
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2014, 05:44:32 PM »
Going from memory, its been awhile since I used it (Watco Satin Danish Oil), but the directions said put first coat on heavy let as much as possible soak into wood then wipe DRY with rag and let dry 30 min then apply LIGHT coat, let dry 15 min and repeat. Total coats 3 in about an hour total time. Found that humidity had to be low to do it in that amount of time so I just waited until the last coat felt dry. With my Danish oil you did not need to sand but my buddy had semi-gloss and I did not like the looks of his so we used 0000 steel wool between coats and it turned out pretty good but still preferred to use the Satin oil.

I liked using it but so many pooh-poohed the durability of Danish oil in severe weather I changed to Chambers oil finish and like it as well or better than the Danish oil I haven't used the Watco since. Bear in mind I am a fair weather hunter and when it rains or snows I am sitting by the fire!
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Re: taking the shine back a bit....
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2014, 05:48:05 PM »
Between coats: Crumpled brown paper, burlap, or Mirka Mirlon micro fine pads (2000#).
Light hand with latter.

Final rub: rottenstone muddled in water (or mineral oil) and rubbed over the stock with a small handmade "rubber".
Buffed back clean with soft flannel.
Google up 'french polish' if you want to craft & your own rubber.


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Re: taking the shine back a bit....
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2014, 09:25:39 AM »
To eliminate the "chore" of cutting back the shine, I use the following. 3 wipe on/ wipe off coats  of LMF sealer w/ a 10-15 minute soak in time and a complete dry between coats. After the last coat is dry, a hard rub w/ 0000 steel wool to remove any surface sealer. Then 2-3 very thin  hand rubbed coats of Wahkon Bay Trucoat w/ a complete dry between coats. This produces a very low sheen finish that takes some light rubbing  w/ a fluffy towel to bring out some shine. Pictured below is a Lancaster so done and it looks like there isn't any finish on the stock.....Fred

  
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Re: taking the shine back a bit....
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 02:01:13 AM »
I never use any abrasive on stained maple except it very extreme cases (so far 1 on a brass suppository gun) then its like 2000 grit wet or dry. Using abrasives will generally result in the edges being white from the abrasives. Don't let the finish dry on the wood. Leave it on for a time then wipe off the excess or put it on really thin.
Remember that back in the day gunsmiths did not use finishes that were as thin as water. Really thin finishes are a PITA to use and add a lot of time to the finishing process. They are, generally 65-80% evaporating solvets, toxic solvents. As a result I tend to use a soft (by modern or musical instrument standards) linseed oil varnish cut with real Turpentine. On hard maple this is usually a 2 coat finish. Seal coat and one sometimes two coats of a heavier bodied finish. Since these finishes are high in solids they fill better, much, much better even in really thin coats dotted on and spread with the hand until it will spread no farther.

I think this is a seal coat and two coats of finish. I only did the extra coat the buttstock up the the tail of the lock, decided it was not needed and left the rest of the stock with only one coat after the seal coat. Its nicely shiney. This rifle has been used in matches for about 3 years as pictured here.



Chambers finish is a good alternative according a friend of mine.
The heavier oil will get into the pours of the wood even in really thinly spread coats and fill them better/faster than the petroleum solvent rich modern finishes will.
People need to look to the past more. Newer is not better when stock finish is concerned if you want the gun to look right. Any cured high Linseed content finish with develop a shine from handling unless its raw oil then it will be duller. Why the Military used it in the wood stock era of the 20th c.

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