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Offline James Wilson Everett

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Making the odd size screw - HDTDT
« on: December 17, 2014, 12:40:42 AM »
Guys,

Here is a method to make a replacement screw for a lost original that does not correspond to a modern thread.  For this tutorial we will be using an old Jos Golcher lock plate, notice three mainspring pin holes and three sear spring slots - a lot of use here.  First whittle a wood pin to twist into the screw hole, I usually leave the pin a rough octagon shape.  Twist the pin in & out a few times so that the thread outer diameter and the pitch are marked on the wood.



Then take a careful measurement of the wood "thread" diameter and pitch.  In this case a 0.150 O.D. x 36 TPI.



Here is where it get a a bit difficult for many of us.  I find a thread on a thread plate that matches the pitch TPI closely and matches or exceeds the O.D.  This is the one I used, a early 19th C thread plate marked "CB".



This is a page from my field notebook, the thread in the plate will make a 0.175 x 36 thread.  A good match for the thread TPI, just a bit too large in diameter.



I turn a pin to 0.160 diameter and thread the pin.  The early threads look a lot like lightbulb threads rather than modern UNC/UNF type threads.







Now the thread diameter is reduced using a tiny triangular file.  The file follows easily along the existing thread form to reduce the diameter while not changing the pitch.  A bit tedious, but not difficult.



Eventually, with a lot of fit - file - fit - file, the new screw will mate very well with the existing odd sized thread and there you have a replacement screw.  It measures 0.148 x 36.



Jim
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Offline WadePatton

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Re: Making the odd size screw - HDTDT
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2014, 03:07:21 AM »
Excellent tutelage, I'm sure many will benefit.
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Offline Nordnecker

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Re: Making the odd size screw - HDTDT
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2014, 04:40:56 AM »
I wish I had one of those. I've been collecting old tools and been to many old tool sales for the last 20+ years. I don't think I've ever seen an old screwplate for sale. But, sometimes I go through these sale with blinders/ filters over my eyes. I'm looking for something specific and miss other things.

Thanks for the tip!
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Offline James Wilson Everett

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Re: Making the odd size screw - HDTDT
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2014, 04:14:06 PM »
Guys,

These tool are fairly common in both antique stores and most especially on E-Bay.  Here is one on sale now for less than $2.  Search under Collectables - Tools - Mechanics and look for thing called screw plate or thread cutter or other combinations of such words.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-die-stock-thread-cutter-tool-old-tool-by-Stubs-/311214997115?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4875dbfe7b

Here is another photo of a different screwplate.  Go and get a few, they all seem to have different thread sizes and pitches.



Jim
« Last Edit: November 29, 2019, 09:44:48 PM by James Wilson Everett »