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Offline Daniel

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stock wood
« on: January 21, 2015, 05:32:24 PM »
  I think I have asked this before, but can't remember.
Besides walnut, maple, cherry and ash wood what is available for stocks ?
I'm going to have Mike Davis build in the white for me a Southern rifle that's
in Newman's book Weapons of the Revolution . It's the one with a grease hole
and 66 cal rifle.
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Offline Swampwalker

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Re: stock wood
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2015, 05:36:02 PM »
I've seen several of pear or other fruitwood.  There's also at least one rifle (by I. Haines) of mohogany.
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Re: stock wood
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 05:44:15 PM »
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Besides walnut, maple, cherry and ash wood what is available for stocks ?
Apple and for a southern gun I have heard of "ivory walnut" which I was told was actually Butternut. Also heard of a couple made from Persimmon but suspect you would have a problem finding a large enough blank.
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Re: stock wood
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 05:52:53 PM »
There are a few originals out of, yes-oak but not too many. ::) Contemporary guns have been stocked in mulberry, osage, hackberry....   
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Offline Daniel

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Re: stock wood
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 06:06:01 PM »
I can't imagine osage. That's a heavy wood. Makes great bows.
I thought about oak but not sure. This is an early rifle so I want it
right.
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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: stock wood
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 06:21:17 PM »
Quote from: Darrin McDonal on January 21, 2015, 05:52:53 PM
There are a few originals out of, yes-oak but not too many. ::) Contemporary guns have been stocked in mulberry, osage, hackberry....   
Darrin
Leonard Meadows made a Bedford full stock from oak just before he
made my walnut full stock.I saw the Bedford at Farris's gun shop in
Portsmouth Ohio.Len said "NEVER again" on an oak stocked gun.

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Offline Daniel

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Re: stock wood
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2015, 06:25:48 PM »
Thanks Bob. I will mark that one out. What about beech, or would that be more military or trade gun wood?
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Re: stock wood
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2015, 06:44:10 PM »
Quote from: Daniel on January 21, 2015, 06:25:48 PM
Thanks Bob. I will mark that one out. What about beech, or would that be more military or trade gun wood?
Some of the full time stock makers will have to answer that one.I have done most,what few there were in Walnut.That first one might have been birch but my memory of it is weak.I am not a gun builder and my
attempts are fraught with mistakes and with arthritis in my right wrist and hand,I woill not attempt to do
any more inletting of a lock.

Bob Roller
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Offline Daniel

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Re: stock wood
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2015, 07:16:23 PM »
I understand the arthritis. I was going to try to build again but can't because of that and nerve damage.
The best I can do is finish work.
  I may just stay with a plain maple.
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Re: stock wood
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2015, 08:08:30 PM »
Perfect!
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Offline Daniel

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Re: stock wood
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2015, 08:22:24 PM »
Settled. Plain maple. Thanks guys for the help here.
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Offline Majorjoel

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Re: stock wood
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2015, 11:47:59 PM »
Now that you're all settled in to your choice of stock wood Daniel, I thought I would like to also mention another wood that I have seen used on a contemporary rifle build. It is Madrone  (Arbutus menziesii) or sometimes called Madrona from the west coast of the US.  Ron Scott from this very forum used it for a very fine jaeger style rifle back a few years ago and it was a real beauty!
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Re: stock wood
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2015, 01:57:42 AM »
Daniel is that the rifle with the square to octagon barrel? I built a .62 loosely based on that gun but I used an oct. to round barrel and put a sliding wood patchbox instead of the grease hole. I like that gun and talked to Ed Rayl about making the square breech barrel but decided to go with the oct/rd. It is a very good shooter and for a big bore is easy to shoot. I have shot 20 round  matches with it and taken several deer with it. I used black walnut. 







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Re: stock wood
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2015, 03:15:20 AM »
Quote from: Dennis Glazener on January 21, 2015, 05:44:15 PM
I have heard of "ivory walnut" which I was told was actually Butternut.

Yes. Butternut was/is sometimes called white walnut. It's fun to carve, because it's about as soft as pine. Probably not what I'd want in a stock. The tree is in the same family as Am. black walnut. It kind of reminds me of working with the wood of paulownia/empress tree.

http://www.americanwoodworker.com/blogs/tips/archive/2010/07/24/butternut.aspx
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Offline Daniel

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Re: stock wood
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2015, 05:27:32 AM »
Dave, yes that's the one. Been wanting that for a long time. Charles Burton is making the barrel.
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Re: stock wood
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2015, 07:58:37 PM »
I have all my parts ordered for this. I will rework a Tulle trigger guard for it. Got an Early Ketland unbridled lock coming too.
It will either be a .66 or .60 rifle. Maple stock. Really hoping on a .66 if Charles has a rifling head for it.
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Offline David R. Pennington

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2015, 02:55:38 AM »
Keep us posted and show us some pictures as you progress please.
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Offline Daniel

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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2015, 04:02:09 AM »
I will. Going to be a .60 cal. I will get barrel in late April.
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